FBI Witness Says He Paid UM Football Players

[thewolverines24]

https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/1120758847835189248

Who cares? We all know this is going on. Nothing will happen because Bama, ND, and PSU are all on the list as well.

The NCAA needs to stop the god damn charade so we can stop wasting FBI resources to investigate this sort of nonsense.

 

[TheVictors]

I heard about this story in October of 2017 from a client of mine in Denver who played briefly in the NFL and is an NFLPA-approved adviser. (The John Grisham novel, Playing for Pizza was based on him)

It really has nothing to do with the schools. Advisors know that these soon-to-be-professionals will be signing for money and many will become wealthy overnight. Advisers will try to get these kids to become a client by contacting them. The guy in question was bribing families ahead of the draft, trying to BUY their business down the road. The FA I know told me about it because he and his team have a lot of pro athletes (Elway's money too) and lost out on a couple key opportunities ...to this guy and heard he was paying off the families.

The same thing happens to Docs in residency, though not as glamorous as a good NCAA scandal ...docs are given enticements by dirty advisors seeking their business.

As one neurosurgeon told me last week (UM '93/OSU Med School) - "they trying to get their claws into you when you're in residency to get you as a client once your in practice."

Unless any of these schools were complicit in what the advisor did or facilitated it, I would expect nothing to come of it ...and the reason it's these programs is because of the talent base of the kids.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It might not matter to some but I don't like seeing it. Not any different than paying for a son - daughter to get into high profile Universities and say they're on the rowing team. Imo.

 

[Michchamp]

This is not surprising; definitely seems like our football team has gotten more mercenary than in years past.



No longer "the team, the team, the team"... also those who stay have NOT been champions.



We need new mottoes.



I am closer and closer to not even giving a shit this coming season. the sleaze has oozed into every last crevice of the sport.

 

[thewolverines24]

This is not surprising; definitely seems like our football team has gotten more mercenary than in years past.



No longer "the team, the team, the team"... also those who stay have NOT been champions.



We need new mottoes.



I am closer and closer to not even giving a shit this coming season. the sleaze has oozed into every last crevice of the sport.

I still care, I just don't expect us to accomplish anything significant. The defense is going to take a step back and I'm in wait and see mode with the offense.

 

[byco42]

Unless and until there are names and amounts, this remains one guy looking for a plea.

 

[TheVictors]

Unless and until there are names and amounts, this remains one guy looking for a plea.

Agreed

 

[Michchamp]

If I had to guess a name, Rashan Gary would be at the top of my list. I have no basis for believing this, other than the amount of hype he got, which stayed consistent from teh day he signed til the moment he left.

I'm always suspicious of guys who come in surrounded by hype, that remains consistent regardless of how their season goes.

I know people really get excited when we get over-hyped 5-star guys, but it's probably not great for team chemistry. Why would you bust your ass, and hit hard knowing that the guy next to you is just passing time and keeping himself healthy so he can sign an 8 figure deal in a couple months?

AND for the record, I don't blame the players for taking the money; they're smart. the adults in the room that have perverted the sport are the ones who suck.

 

[TheVictors]

If I had to guess a name, Rashan Gary would be at the top of my list. I have no basis for believing this, other than the amount of hype he got, which stayed consistent from teh day he signed til the moment he left.

I'm always suspicious of guys who come in surrounded by hype, that remains consistent regardless of how their season goes.

I know people really get excited when we get over-hyped 5-star guys, but it's probably not great for team chemistry. Why would you bust your ass, and hit hard knowing that the guy next to you is just passing time and keeping himself healthy so he can sign an 8 figure deal in a couple months?

AND for the record, I don't blame the players for taking the money; they're smart. the adults in the room that have perverted the sport are the ones who suck.

I don?t know. Gary was Chris Partridge?s player at Paramus and while hyped, the recruiting process at the time sure made it seem like his Mom was trying to shield him from that BS.

 

[byco42]

Gary was getting offers "incentives" from other schools as a recruit. And Dabo just signed a 10-year, $93,000,000 extension, so what are we talking about, here?

 

[Michchamp]

I don?t know. Gary was Chris Partridge?s player at Paramus and while hyped, the recruiting process at the time sure made it seem like his Mom was trying to shield him from that BS.

and we hired Chris Patridge...

 

[Michchamp]

Gary was getting offers "incentives" from other schools as a recruit. And Dabo just signed a 10-year, $93,000,000 extension, so what are we talking about, here?

Ah, I wondered why Clemson was in the news.

yeah, Pat Forde called them out for cutting a couple sports to save money, then suddenly getting great at football. a lot of clemson fanboys didn't like being reminded of that.

he also retweeted someone else who posted a quote from Swinney a couple seasons ago that if they dared to pay players he (Swinney) would go do something else because "there's too much entitlement" or something like that these days.

as if some asshole lifelong football coach could go do something else and make millions of dollars...

You're right, the whole thing stinks.

just pay the fucking players already...

 

[hungry]

pay the players because some schools are cheating?

that never really made sense to me

paying players won't stop school from paying players more money to come play for them

 

[hungry]

Not to mention, they'd have to pay that star QB the exact same amount as the woman's water polo player, wouldn't they?

 

[thewolverines24]

Just let them make money of their own name/likeness.

 

[TheVictors]

and we hired Chris Patridge...

right. and what does that have to do with an unscrupulous agent?

 

[hungry]

Just let them make money of their own name/likeness.

Do you think this will stop schools/agents/anyone from paying them more money to attend a certain university?

Do you think it will make it harder to identify who is getting paid by shoe companies and such?

Schools paying them or them selling their likenesses won't have any effect on that. People are greedy. They're going to want more money.

 

[Michchamp]

Do you think this will stop schools/agents/anyone from paying them more money to attend a certain university?

Do you think it will make it harder to identify who is getting paid by shoe companies and such?

Schools paying them or them selling their likenesses won't have any effect on that. People are greedy. They're going to want more money.

1) it's fair to let them profit from their own likeness.

2) if they can make money, it might take the pressure off them to take money to go somewhere else. they're not all going to be completely motivated by nothing more than cash $$$

3) money going to players, possibly in trust, is better than money flowing to dumb coaches, sleazy ADs, conference execs, and other hangers-on making millions off unpaid kids.

You make payments legal, and you're moving money from illicit to legit all the sudden. you're basically shining a light on the corrupt underbelly of the sport... a lot of these other issues will clear up once the bottom feeders move on to something else.

none of this is going to be perfect, and it's not like we're having a carefully thought out brainstorming session here on the internet, but it's gotta be better than the current, awful arrangement that gets worse every season.

is anyone - outside of Alabama fans maybe - really happy with how college football is going?

It's so bizarre to me that people who complain about the sport flip out so much when this one solution is brought up.

 

[hungry]

I'm not flipping out. I just don't think it's a solution. I think it could make things worse

Clemson fans are probably happy, but I'm sure their players are getting paid, too.

 

[hungry]

Then there are all of the title IX implications that people never think of.