Ferguson, MO

[Spartanmack]

ok..answer me one question. How does MILITARY police show up right before he begins to move. Actually answer another question....even if all the evidence points to trump did it. Would you ever admit it? If the answer is no, just let me know so i can stop posting evidence lol.

If those were military police, when did they show up? Were they only deployed there or were they at other locations not visited by Trump? Are you asking any questions about it or are you just looking for reasons to link them to white house and call that evidence that WH asked for the action?

let me know when you start posting actual evidence that it was a coordinated effort.

 

[sggatecl]

Buffalo police officers quit unit to protest colleagues' suspension: reports

That explains everything. The cops were a patsy in this old man's scheme.

I would pay $1000 to view Trump's browser history to see where he comes up with this stuff.

Icing on the cake: No tweet (that I've seen) concerning a KKK member ramming his car into a crowd of people. No condemnation.

 

[tomdalton22]

That explains everything. The cops were a patsy in this old man's scheme.

I would pay $1000 to view Trump's browser history to see where he comes up with this stuff.

Icing on the cake: No tweet (that I've seen) concerning a KKK member ramming his car into a crowd of people. No condemnation.

what an idiot

 

[Mitchrapp]

This is the real tragedy unrelated to whatever you guys are discussing..

https://www.wcvb.com/article/elmer-...r-have-guns-in-looney-tunes-cartoons/32801549

Elmer Fudd & Yosemite Sam will no longer have guns.

 

[sggatecl]

This is the real tragedy unrelated to whatever you guys are discussing..

https://www.wcvb.com/article/elmer-...r-have-guns-in-looney-tunes-cartoons/32801549

Elmer Fudd & Yosemite Sam will no longer have guns.

Aren't kids into that anime garbage nowadays? They're missing out.

 

[tomdalton22]

This is the real tragedy unrelated to whatever you guys are discussing..

https://www.wcvb.com/article/elmer-...r-have-guns-in-looney-tunes-cartoons/32801549

Elmer Fudd & Yosemite Sam will no longer have guns.

so Elmer Fudd's new tag line while he sets rabbit traps will be: "be very, very quite, I'm live trapping Wabbits" :cheers:

 

[mhughes0021]

What do you mean by ?military police?? Don?t military police patrol military bases?

All the accounts I?ve seen report that it was the United States Park Police, and I?ve already posted about a half dozen links to reports of that, I?m done.

Go back and read my posts and review the links to evidence I?ve already provided if you want to.

I don?t care if I convince you of anything, and if you haven?t sussed it yet, the only dog I have in this fight is credible journalism and journalistic responsibility and integrity, which has been sorely lacking.

EDIT: One last thing...as far as ?Trump did it...? I haven?t denied that the space was cleared for the reason some claim. I?ve neither agreed nor disagreed. If I?m a reporter covering this story, I?m leaving no stone unturned, and let the chips fall where they may.

My problem is with news agencies reporting opinion as fact - Journalism 101.

Yes...i think youre starting to get it! Watch the video...jump to :40 - 1:10. Their riot shields literally say "Military Police" on them. So to your point...why the fuck are they clearing out the streets of Washington DC when they should be on a military base?

 

[byco42]

That explains everything. The cops were a patsy in this old man's scheme.

I would pay $1000 to view Trump's browser history to see where he comes up with this stuff.

Icing on the cake: No tweet (that I've seen) concerning a KKK member ramming his car into a crowd of people. No condemnation.

I did a little research on Martin Gugino:

Here he is before he was shoved by the police.

Tweet 24 hours before he was shoved.

Twitter account deleted

I'd also like to learn why he was holding his phone so close the police officers' communication gear, how he managed to hang on to his phone as he fell, and not (carefully) release it from his hand for several seconds after prone on the pavement, how the blood immediately gushed from his right ear, (after hitting the back of his head) and what the third strap is on the right side of his face.

Wondering if anyone may have sampled what was on the sidewalk, too. Just some questions that I think are worth consideration.

 

[tomdalton22]

Yes...i think youre starting to get it! Watch the video...jump to :40 - 1:10. Their riot shields literally say "Military Police" on them. So to your point...why the fuck are they clearing out the streets of Washington DC when they should be on a military base?

I never noticed it until watching it again. There were some guys in riot gear that had round shields that just said "police" on them and others with larger oval shields that said "military police". In the video, the short chubby guy hitting the reporter had a round one that only said police. All of the shots of the of guys that had "military police" on the shields, they were walking calmly in a line.

I wonder if there were multiple police forces there. Perhaps it was a local police officer?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yes...i think youre starting to get it! Watch the video...jump to :40 - 1:10. Their riot shields literally say "Military Police" on them. So to your point...why the fuck are they clearing out the streets of Washington DC when they should be on a military base?

I don?t know the source of the video.

I?ve lived in Hollywood almost my entire adult life, and if that experience has taught me anything, it?s to not believe my own eyes.

 

[mhughes0021]

I don?t know the source of the video.

I?ve lived in Hollywood almost my entire adult life, and if that experience has taught me anything, it?s to not believe my own eyes.

lmao...got it. Now i understand why you dont think Trump is a dumb fuck.

 

[mhughes0021]

I wonder if there were multiple police forces there. Perhaps it was a local police officer?

I noticed that too...but it one of the shots you can see they are all lined up together...some shields said military some didnt. if thats the case that it was multiple departments....you would assume it was planned? And not oh weird....2 different departments are moving perfectly coordinated with no plan all to the same spot!!!....fucking amazing!

 

[tinselwolverine]

lmao...got it. Now i understand why you dont think Trump is a dumb fuck.

What are you talking about?

I?ve expressed my dismay about the dumb and wacky shit Trump does and says ad nauseum here.

 

[Spartanmack]

I never noticed it until watching it again. There were some guys in riot gear that had round shields that just said "police" on them and others with larger oval shields that said "military police". In the video, the short chubby guy hitting the reporter had a round one that only said police. All of the shots of the of guys that had "military police" on the shields, they were walking calmly in a line.

I wonder if there were multiple police forces there. Perhaps it was a local police officer?

You can?t ask questions like that - if one guy has a shield that says military police they were all military police and that means the US Park police weren?t there and if they were they weren?t directing any of it. It was the military called in for a photo op for Trump, the shield proves it. Trump did they whole thing himself and he would never have police from multiple branches at the same site during a crisis - he?s way to organized and intelligent to do something like that, except every other second when he?s the biggest idiot ever. And he?s a particularly effective leader who coordinated the whole thing except every other instance of his presidency where he?s a horrible leader with no plan.

That seems to be how it works anyway based on what I?ve read on DSF.

 

[Spartanmack]

I noticed that too...but it one of the shots you can see they are all lined up together...some shields said military some didnt. if thats the case that it was multiple departments....you would assume it was planned? And not oh weird....2 different departments are moving perfectly coordinated with no plan all to the same spot!!!....fucking amazing!

What do you mean no plan? Who ever said their movements weren’t coordinated? You do realize police are trained in riot and crowd control tactics right? Why are coordinated movement by police an indicator that The White House made the request. Are you saying the White House musta called down there and given them step-by-step instructions on crowd control otherwise it the police movements would have been uncoordinated chaos?

If you can show video proof of the police and crowd before the cops acted that shows the protest was 100% peaceful and cops had no reason to engage protestors, that would be an indication that they were given orders or a request from somewhere else like the White House. But saying they all marched together in a line indicates they were directed by the White House to clear the area is more than a leap, it’s dumb.

 

[mhughes0021]

What do you mean no plan? Who ever said their movements weren?t coordinated? You do realize police are trained in riot and crowd control tactics right? Are you saying the White House musta called down there and given them step-by-step instructions on crowd control otherwise it the police movements would have been uncoordinated chaos?

Youre very good at cherry picking. Planned...as in moving Trump to the church. Youve been saying it was an unplanned walk that no one knew about. Did you think i was forgetting what we were debating?

 

[Spartanmack]

Youre very good at cherry picking. Planned...as in moving Trump to the church. Youve been saying it was an unplanned walk that no one knew about. Did you think i was forgetting what we were debating?

No I didn?t think you forgot but now I do. You?re putting words in my mouth. I haven?t said anything remotely close to that. I?ve basically said what Tinsel said - there is no confirmation of the major claims of this news story which are: 1) the White House directed the police to clear the area for a Trump photo op 2) police used tear gas 3) the protest up to that point was 100% peaceful.

As for cherry picking, you?re worse than Ovechkin when it comes to that with garbage like ?look, the police are all moving together as a unit, that?s evidence they were clearing the area for a Trump photo op? and ?Trump showed up at the site right after, so he must have given the order?, etc, etc.

 

[Spartanmack]

lmao...got it. Now i understand why you dont think Trump is a dumb fuck.

Ha Tinsel - now you’re a Trump supporter. That’s a first, welcome to the club.

Hughes, as far as political discourse on DSF goes, you musta been born yesterday. You have no clue.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Ha Tinsel - now you?re a Trump supporter. That?s a first, welcome to the club.

That?s funny.

Thanks for the welcome, but I think I?ll either again not vote for president or vote third-party.

I just voted for a major party candidate for president the first time in over a decade, and I think that?ll be enough for a while.

 

[Spartanmack]

That’s funny.

Thanks for the welcome, but I think I’ll either again not vote for president or vote third-party.

I just voted for a major party candidate for president the first time in over a decade, and I think that’ll be enough for a while.

None of that matters, the moment you don’t pile on the hate, you’re MAGA dude - might as well go get yourself a hat. Ive never voted for the guy either, don’t like him as a person, disagree with a lot of things he’s said but agree with a lot things he’s done. since I don’t hate everything he does, I’m apparently a die hard MAGA guy.