Game 11: Vikings @ Lions *Thanksgiving* Thread

[LKP]

Yes. The similarities are in the numbers.
Lions 'are' good, with some luck as well.

I think we would all agree the Patriots have a bit more all-around talent and depth. and the teams they played in their schedule, is it a stronger/weaker strength of schedule?

It was not luck. Lions earned every stop and point

Lions more talented overall. Patriots had easier schedule. Browns, 49ers, eagles last year, skins, dolphins and buffalo not that good. Cincy down this year. Cards too

 

[kalinecountry]

It was not luck. Lions earned every stop and point

Lions more talented overall

Every team has some good luck or little to no luck in their games and seasons.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...edule-49ers-falcons-at-no-1-packers-at-no-32/
2016 NFL strength of schedule.

 

[LKP]

Every team has some good luck or little to no luck in their games and seasons.

Zero good luck. Mainly lions making plays

13-6. Just like the pats.

 

[kalinecountry]

It was not luck. Lions earned every stop and point

Lions more talented overall. Patriots had easier schedule. Browns, 49ers, eagles last year, skins, dolphins and buffalo not that good. Cincy down this year. Cards too

2016 strength of schedule for each NFL team (Combined 2015 record of all 16 opponents, combined winning percentage)
T-1. San Francisco 49ers: 142-114, .555
T-1. Atlanta Falcons: 142-114, .555
3. Los Angeles Rams: 141-115, .551
4. New Orleans Saints: 140-116, .547
T-5. Seattle Seahawks: 139-117, .543
T-5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 139-117, .543
T-7. Arizona Cardinals: 136-120, .531
T-7. New York Jets: 136-120, .531
9. New England Patriots: 134-122, .523
10. Buffalo Bills: 133-123, .520
11. Miami Dolphins: 132-124, .516
12. Carolina Panthers: 131-125, .512
13. San Diego Chargers: 130-126, .508
14. Denver Broncos: 129-127, .504
15. Oakland Raiders: 128-128, .500
16. Kansas City Chiefs: 127-129, .496
17. Washington Redskins: 126-130, .492
18. Minnesota Vikings: 125-131, .488
T-19. Houston Texans: 124-132, .484
T-19. Baltimore Ravens: 124-132, .484
21. Cleveland Browns: 123-133, .480
22. Indianapolis Colts: 122-134, .477
T-23. Pittsburgh Steelers: 121-135, .473
T-23. Tennessee Titans: 121-135, .473
T-23. Jacksonville Jaguars: 121-135, .473
26. Philadelphia Eagles: 120-136, .469
T-27. Cincinnati Bengals: 119-137, .465
T-27. Detroit Lions: 119-137, .465
T-27. Dallas Cowboys: 119-137, .465
T-30. Chicago Bears: 118-138, .461
T-30. New York Giants: 118-138, .461
32. Green Bay Packers: 117-139, .457

 

[LKP]

2016 strength of schedule for each NFL team (Combined 2015 record of all 16 opponents, combined winning percentage)
T-1. San Francisco 49ers: 142-114, .555
T-1. Atlanta Falcons: 142-114, .555
3. Los Angeles Rams: 141-115, .551
4. New Orleans Saints: 140-116, .547
T-5. Seattle Seahawks: 139-117, .543
T-5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 139-117, .543
T-7. Arizona Cardinals: 136-120, .531
T-7. New York Jets: 136-120, .531
9. New England Patriots: 134-122, .523
10. Buffalo Bills: 133-123, .520
11. Miami Dolphins: 132-124, .516
12. Carolina Panthers: 131-125, .512
13. San Diego Chargers: 130-126, .508
14. Denver Broncos: 129-127, .504
15. Oakland Raiders: 128-128, .500
16. Kansas City Chiefs: 127-129, .496
17. Washington Redskins: 126-130, .492
18. Minnesota Vikings: 125-131, .488
T-19. Houston Texans: 124-132, .484
T-19. Baltimore Ravens: 124-132, .484
21. Cleveland Browns: 123-133, .480
22. Indianapolis Colts: 122-134, .477
T-23. Pittsburgh Steelers: 121-135, .473
T-23. Tennessee Titans: 121-135, .473
T-23. Jacksonville Jaguars: 121-135, .473
26. Philadelphia Eagles: 120-136, .469
T-27. Cincinnati Bengals: 119-137, .465
T-27. Detroit Lions: 119-137, .465
T-27. Dallas Cowboys: 119-137, .465
T-30. Chicago Bears: 118-138, .461
T-30. New York Giants: 118-138, .461
32. Green Bay Packers: 117-139, .457

This is 2015 for 2016. It's meaningless. Need to add up 2016 records right now for all teams and 2015 records for last 9 game teams for pats and 8 games for lions

 

[LKP]

Lions
Green Bay 10-6
Raiders 7-9
Eagles 7-9
Packers 10-6
Rams 7-9
Saints7-9
49ers 5-11
Bears 6-10
Colts 5-6
Titans 5-6
Packers 4-6
Bears 2-8
Eagles 5-5
Rams 4-6
Skins 6-4-1
Houston 6-4
Vikings 6-5
Jags 2-8
Vikings 6-5

110 wins

 

[LKP]

9-7 wash
6-10 giants
8-8 buf
12-4 den
7-9 eagles
9-7 Houston
3-13 Titans
10-6 Jets
6-10 Miami
4-5-1 zona
6-4 Miami
6-4 Houston
5-5 buf
0-11 cle
3-6-1 cin
6-5 pit
5-5 buf
Sea 7-2-1
San Fran 1-9

NFC east worse last year. Afc east is a joke. Titans worse in 2015, 49ers worse in 2016, browns.

Lions more impressive

 

[biggunsbob]

Lions are a great franchise. 4 NFL Championships. Really good first place team right now. 11-5 2014. 10-6 2011. A few 7-9 ref influenced seasons shouldn't damper your feelings on this current ball club.

7-4 2016, 6-2 finish to 2015. That is 13-6 in last 19 my friends. Winning team.

Talent and coaching looking good. Won 6 of last 7. 7-4

Bring on the Saints and their stud offense to test our defense.

This is not true.
They were in the 1950's with 3 of 4 titles chances but as a franchise .500 under the Fords. So you are way off. Hopefully they will continue to win this year.

542-638-32
334-457-15 WCF
25-18 Martha
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183-163-17 before the fords and 4 titles.

 

[mhughes0021]

9-7 wash
6-10 giants
8-8 buf
12-4 den
7-9 eagles
9-7 Houston
3-13 Titans
10-6 Jets
6-10 Miami
4-5-1 zona
6-4 Miami
6-4 Houston
5-5 buf
0-11 cle
3-6-1 cin
6-5 pit
5-5 buf
Sea 7-2-1
San Fran 1-9

NFC east worse last year. Afc east is a joke. Titans worse in 2015, 49ers worse in 2016, browns.

Lions more impressive

Yup....youre still an idiot.

We've come close to losing every fucking game this year and this moron Is comparing us to the Patriots lololol.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2016/11/the_statistical_improbabilitie.html#incart_river_index
The statistical improbabilities of the Detroit Lions' 7-4 start.
Mlive

 

[LKP]

Yup....youre still an idiot.

We've come close to losing every fucking game this year and this moron Is comparing us to the Patriots lololol.

13-6 in last 19. It's a fact. Same as patriots. Stop underating the lions. We won the games. All that matters. NFL is close

 

[UMRules06]

13-6 in last 19. It's a fact. Same as patriots. Stop underating the lions. We won the games. All that matters. NFL is close

Ok sure. So when we lose games stop sweeping them under the rug with excuse after excuse then.

All that matters is winning right? Not how the team plays or anything else.

 

[tonyballs]

Why can't it be both? We're lucky and good. Good enough to win football games and lucky enough to win them the way they are. What does it matter? They're winning!!! We're in 1st place!!! I don't give 2 fucks how they win...just win, baby!!
They're making clutch plays at the right time on both sides of the ball. That's not just luck. People just get so confused about this team winning football teams and they beat themselves up over it. Even the so called experts on the NFLN are still making fun of the Lions....lol. We get no respect.

 

[UMRules06]

Why can't it be both? We're lucky and good. Good enough to win football games and lucky enough to win them the way they are. What does it matter? They're winning!!! We're in 1st place!!! I don't give 2 fucks how they win...just win, baby!!
They're making clutch plays at the right time on both sides of the ball. That's not just luck. People just get so confused about this team winning football teams and they beat themselves up over it. Even the so called experts on the NFLN are still making fun of the Lions....lol. We get no respect.

I totally agree. I'm more than happy with the position they're in. They are in charge of their own destiny, and it's up to them to take advantage of it.

 

[LKP]

Ok sure. So when we lose games stop sweeping them under the rug with excuse after excuse then.

All that matters is winning right? Not how the team plays or anything else.

We don't lose games. We win them. Like the patriots

Ref incompetence with examples is a fact

Saying they are lucky is generic bullshit with no basis and basically it's a fucking troll statement

 

[mhughes0021]

We don't lose games. We win them. Like the patriots

Ref incompetence with examples is a fact

Saying they are lucky is generic bullshit with no basis and basically it's a fucking troll statement

I never said they are lucky. I said comparing a perenial loser that has almost lost every game this year, to the Patriots is laughable.

 

[tonyballs]

We don't lose games. We win them. Like the patriots

Ref incompetence with examples is a fact

Saying they are lucky is generic bullshit with no basis and basically it's a fucking troll statement

Oh, calm the fuck down, man. Nothing wrong with being a little lucky. This is still a good football team. It's not just luck that this team makes plays in clutch moments.

 

[UMRules06]

We don't lose games. We win them. Like the patriots

Ref incompetence with examples is a fact

Saying they are lucky is generic bullshit with no basis and basically it's a fucking troll statement

Saying "we don't lose games" is also a troll statement, and you know it is. I seem to recall 4 losses this year. Did I imagine those? Comparing us to the Patriots is another troll technique of trying to stir up another stupid argument, and you are successful because you're an expert at it. There is no rational person on this earth that would say we are on par with the Patriots and that includes you.

"just win that's all that matters." You said that a few posts ago. Now all of a sudden ref incompetence and your "facts" supersede that. I find that very hypocritical.

 

[LKP]

By the way um rules. My penn state is about to win big ten east. Enjoy that

 

[LKP]

13-6 is the same for pats and lions. Unless you are a troll