Game 119 Tigers vs. white sox August 13, 2018

[Mitchrapp]

Another positive from the game Victor improved his OPS to .614. Yeah. I love Victor, has done a lot for us but come on man. He's slowed, probably hurt - bringing up someone won't hurt their free agent status.. I guess in September. I assume they won't bring him back next season but who knows..

 

[tomdalton22]

If you really look at this team from top to bottom it's actually a surprise they have done as well as they have..

their record is better than it should be because they are in the worst division in baseball.

Run differential for each division

AL
East 111
Central -411
West 219

NL
East -56
Central 103
West 6

-411 for the division is terrible!

 

[Mitchrapp]

their record is better than it should be because they are in the worst division in baseball.

Run differential for each division

AL
East 111
Central -411
West 219

NL
East -56
Central 103
West 6

-411 for the division is terrible!

But isn't that always the way it is, the weakest division? Sometimes the lineups looks like a 43 win team. We all thought 100 loses in April we've had to change so much that what we had in April and most likely lose less than a 100. That's better than expected..

 

[tomdalton22]

But isn't that always the way it is, the weakest division? Sometimes the lineups looks like a 43 win team. We all thought 100 loses in April we've had to change so much that what we had in April and most likely lose less than a 100. That's better than expected..

The division being terrible is the only reason the Tigers won't lose 100. I didn't think MN, KC and the White Sox would be as bad as they are.

They are 24-24 within the division, .500

They are 26-45 outside the shitty division, .366

A .366 winning percentage = 103 losses

 

[Mitchrapp]

The division being terrible is the only reason the Tigers won't lose 100. I didn't think MN, KC and the White Sox would be as bad as they are.

They are 24-24 within the division, .500

They are 26-45 outside the shitty division, .366

A .366 winning percentage = 103 losses

That's irrelevant. It's not like we thought 100 loses knowing the White Sox and KC would be better. We knew they'd stink.. They didn't do anything and losing players. Minny won 59 the year before last.. They're not a surprise. Last season for them was more an aberration..

 

[tomdalton22]

That's irrelevant. It's not like we thought 100 loses knowing the White Sox and KC would be better. We knew they'd stink.. They didn't do anything and losing players. Minny won 59 the year before last.. They're not a surprise. Last season for them was more an aberration..

anyone that KNEW KC, the Sox and MN were going to be THIS bad and still thought the Tigers would lose 100, they aren't very bright.

KC (113) and the Sox (104) are both on pace for over 100 losses. Given the number of divisional games, it's highly unlikely that 3 teams in one division would all have 100 losses.

 

[Mitchrapp]

anyone that KNEW KC, the Sox and MN were going to be THIS bad and still thought the Tigers would lose 100, they aren't very bright.

KC (113) and the Sox (104) are both on pace for over 100 losses. Given the number of divisional games, it's highly unlikely that 3 teams in one division would all have 100 losses.

But it's not like these teams have a whole lot of success over the years.. Maybe what I said what is a bit of a stretch but outside the Indians, it wasn't outside the realm the other 4 teams would not be very good. Even 100 loss not very good.

 

[Rebbiv]

119 games complete

50-69 .420 WPCT

43 games to go

Last 43 games = 14-29


By the numbers:

17-46 .270 WPCT vs Teams better than .500

14-32 .304 WPCT last 46 games

18-41 .305 WPCT Away

34-54 .386 WPCT vs RH starters


At these rates, they are projected to finish 64-98. So they won't lose 100. I wish they would have so they could get a better draft position.

 

[tomdalton22]

119 games complete

50-69 .420 WPCT

43 games to go

Last 43 games = 14-29


By the numbers:

17-46 .270 WPCT vs Teams better than .500

14-32 .304 WPCT last 46 games

18-41 .305 WPCT Away

34-54 .386 WPCT vs RH starters


At these rates, they are projected to finish 64-98. So they won't lose 100. I wish they would have so they could get a better draft position.

but 28 of their 43 remaining games are vs. AL central teams (only 3 vs Cleveland)

 

[Mitchrapp]

100 loses suck.. so you think we have a better shot at a stud picking lets say 4 rather than 5? In MLB? Thisn't isn't the NFL.

 

[Mitchrapp]

but 28 of their 43 remaining games are vs. AL central teams (only 3 vs Cleveland)

The advantage of being in the ALC. 3rd place baby.

 

[Rebbiv]

but 28 of their 43 remaining games are vs. AL central teams (only 3 vs Cleveland)

15 of those 28 on road (4-11)



The other 15 are all against .500 or better teams (4-11)


The 13 at home vs Central will be either 6-7 or 7-7.


14-15 wins tops. So lets say 15. That is 65-97. Still not 100 loses. But + or - 3 loses is still within what was being predicted.

 

[Rebbiv]

100 loses suck.. so you think we have a better shot at a stud picking lets say 4 rather than 5? In MLB? Thisn't isn't the NFL.

We have an organization that would screw up most picks. However, historically speaking, the higher the pick, the better the chance they become a successful MLB player. This is why so many teams are doing exactly what CHC, HOU, PHI, ATL, etc did.



Right now they are drafting 6th. Certainly they could end up with no less than 4th. BAL and KCR would be hard to beat for 1st based and they certainly didn't help themselves in the offseason and both arguably made more moves at the trade deadline. Same with CHW. They are close to MIA, who absolutely sold off during the offseason.

 

[lonesometiger]

Another positive from the game Victor improved his OPS to .614. Yeah. I love Victor, has done a lot for us but come on man. He's slowed, probably hurt - bringing up someone won't hurt their free agent status.. I guess in September. I assume they won't bring him back next season but who knows..

No way they bring him back. Blocking someone now is bad enough but again next season would be like asking a rock to float!

 

[Mitchrapp]

We have an organization that would screw up most picks. However, historically speaking, the higher the pick, the better the chance they become a successful MLB player. This is why so many teams are doing exactly what CHC, HOU, PHI, ATL, etc did.



Right now they are drafting 6th. Certainly they could end up with no less than 4th. BAL and KCR would be hard to beat for 1st based and they certainly didn't help themselves in the offseason and both arguably made more moves at the trade deadline. Same with CHW. They are close to MIA, who absolutely sold off during the offseason.

That's how to lose fans losing for so many years.. I'm not a fan of tanking. And it's much better when they win. I didn't spend $90 to watch them lose on purpose.