Game 78 Tigers vs. indians June 24, 2018

[Mitchrapp]

you are confusing a team that wins a few games with an actual good team. They were a bad team that played well and won a few games. They are still a bad team. There are good teams that have shitty weeks too.

They were good last week. I never said they were the Astros.

 

[tomdalton22]

They were good last week. I never said they were the Astros.

u are still confusing being a good team and winning a few games. There is nothing about this team that is good.

AL ranks

ERA 10th
BAA 10th
QS 8th
ERA as starter 9th
ERA as releiver 13th
OPS 12th
HRs 14th
OBP 11th

 

[Rebbiv]

Since the end of June of 2015, total:


vs CHW = 32-22 .593 WPCT



vs CLE = 15-41 .267 WPCT



vs KCR = 25-35 .417 WPCT



vs MIN = 30-24 .556 WPCT


TOTAL = 102-122 .455 WPCT





On the Road


vs CHW = 14-14 .500 WPCT



vs CLE = 6-22 .214 WPCT



vs KCR = 12-18 .400 WPCT



vs MIN = 18-11 .621 WPCT


TOTAL = 50-65 .435 WPCT

 

[Rebbiv]

u are still confusing being a good team and winning a few games. There is nothing about this team that is good.

AL ranks

ERA 10th
BAA 10th
QS 8th
ERA as starter 9th
ERA as releiver 13th
OPS 12th
HRs 14th
OBP 11th

AWAY Offense MLB



29th in ISO
28th in RC+
28th in wOBA

27th in BB%


Away Pitching MLB


28th in xFIP
25th in wOBA

24th in OPP BAVG

23rd in K/BB
23rd in WHIP


vs RHP Total


28th in wOBA
27th in RC+
27th in BB%
26th in ISO





Fielding


22nd in Defensive Runs Saved
11th in UZR/150



**An example how defensive metrics are hard to explain.

 

[Mitchrapp]

u are still confusing being a good team and winning a few games. There is nothing about this team that is good.

AL ranks

ERA 10th
BAA 10th
QS 8th
ERA as starter 9th
ERA as releiver 13th
OPS 12th
HRs 14th
OBP 11th

Again, I said they were good last week. Only. Nothing more. Are you saying Candy is not good for this team?

 

[tomdalton22]

Again, I said they were good last week. Only. Nothing more. Are you saying Candy is not good for this team?

when I said there was nothing good about this team, I was talking about offense, defense, and pitching. I wasn't talking about individual players. There are a few players on this team that are good. Not many, just a few.

 

[Mitchrapp]

when I said there was nothing good about this team, I was talking about offense, defense, and pitching. I wasn't talking about individual players. There are a few players on this team that are good. Not many, just a few.

Just like I said they were a good team last year. I didn't say they were a good team in 2018. It's okay to say they played good for a few games, no one will think badly of you. Stay strong, Tom.

 

[tomdalton22]

Just like I said they were a good team last year. I didn't say they were a good team in 2018. It's okay to say they played good for a few games, no one will think badly of you. Stay strong, Tom.

sure...you can say they played good for a few games...but you didn't say they played good...you said they were a good team during that stretch. I'm saying they weren't a good team...they were a bad team that played well and won a few games.

 

[Rebbiv]

They are a bad team that plays well at Home and/or against Lefties. Otherwise this team is what it is. Without Miggy, only Candy draws walks greater than league average. The rest of this team can go to hell.



Additionally, the longer they stay mediocre, the longer they are mediocre. This is why every other team has learned to "tank". You cannot rebuild and be mediocre. Period. Any sense this team is able to compete soon is just crazy talk. But if that makes you feel good. Fine.

 

[Mitchrapp]

sure...you can say they played good for a few games...but you didn't say they played good...you said they were a good team during that stretch. I'm saying they weren't a good team...they were a bad team that played well and won a few games.

They were a good team last week.. And yes bad teams can be a good team for a week.

 

[gotime909]

Mitch, just keep enjoying watching baseball and don’t apologize for it.

 

[gotime909]

They are a bad team that plays well at Home and/or against Lefties. Otherwise this team is what it is. Without Miggy, only Candy draws walks greater than league average. The rest of this team can go to hell.



Additionally, the longer they stay mediocre, the longer they are mediocre. This is why every other team has learned to "tank". You cannot rebuild and be mediocre. Period. Any sense this team is able to compete soon is just crazy talk. But if that makes you feel good. Fine.

So Nick still isn?t good enough for your ?only walks matter? nonsense outlook?

 

[tomdalton22]

So Nick still isn?t good enough for your ?only walks matter? nonsense outlook?

I don't know when you posted this...but Nick just "walked" around all the bases.

 

[gotime909]

I don't know when you posted this...but Nick just "walked" around all the bases.

It was right before lol

 

[tomdalton22]

All kidding aside...I'm not sure if Nick should be in the Tiger's long-term plans. His defense is poor no matter where he plays. He will be a free agent after the 2019 season. Do the Tigers really want to commit to him long-term when they most likely will be re-building until 2020-2021?

 

[gotime909]

All kidding aside...I'm not sure if Nick should be in the Tiger's long-term plans. His defense is poor no matter where he plays. He will be a free agent after the 2019 season. Do the Tigers really want to commit to him long-term when they most likely will be re-building until 2020-2021?

I?ve been as big a fan as any of his and I think moving him now is the way to go.

 

[Rebbiv]

So Nick still isn?t good enough for your ?only walks matter? nonsense outlook?

You are ignorant if you think I said only walks matter.

 

[gotime909]

You are ignorant if you think I said only walks matter.

Sorry, I meant walks on the road