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Great article by levy

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Dan Quinn already looks like he's on his way well past Jim. And Doug Pederson (Philly) may or may not be a better coach. It sucks that he's ranked last simply because there's not enough there to make a determination.

When it comes to simple in game-management, Caldwell is at the bottom 5.
 
Caldwell had some record as mike zimmer coming into this year

And lions true 5-0 too
 
Caldwell had some record as mike zimmer coming into this year

And lions true 5-0 too

LKP, the "true stuff" like above needs to stop.
Whether or not you are going to admit or deny it, that is trolling those who don't like it. Every thread doesn't need that in it from you or setting off some of the other posters here to reverse bait/troll you.

I am asking you to stop with the true win stuff.
 
I would rather see guys get pissed at the players and team instead of each other for this stuff.

I don't want to see lkp or anyone else lose privileges.

and to me it seems obvious that 'everyone' here knows what they are talking about with football.
 
True win is a valid opinion.

Deserved win. I will rebrand it. Ref caused loss. Replay the game w for detroit. It is not trolling. I am giving my opinion on caldwells deserved record.

You just dont like the opinion. But its not trolling just because you dont like it or believe it
 
Saying caldwell is a terrible coach is the same exact thing by the way as true win. Its an opinion. An opinion some dont agree with.
 
Pederson needs to go 11 5 to match caldwell year 1 detroit. High bar

Quinn did not do that. And they were 5-0 last year and fell flat
 
True win is a valid opinion.

Deserved win. I will rebrand it. Ref caused loss. Replay the game w for detroit. It is not trolling. I am giving my opinion on caldwells deserved record.

You just dont like the opinion. But its not trolling just because you dont like it or believe it

"You just dont like the opinion. But its not trolling just because you dont like it or believe it".



LKP, if you mean me, that doesn't bother me, I post, read what you and everyone else posts, and continue on.... what it does do is piss other guys off.
Talking and posting about the players, plays, team, and coach is what most everyone want to discuss here.

Maybe this 'deserved win' will work. sounds better anyways.
 
Ref caused loss may be better. Its a loss. I know its a loss. I just dont believe packers titans and bears earned the win. I dont believe lions poor play was main reason for the loss

Real world is 2 and 3 you have to deal with. Moral victory and how you feel about performance of the team and how you feel the team will do goin forward, ref caused losses matter
 
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It's like some weird riddle that's almost unsolvable.

I really wished you spoke in complete sentences and used original thoughts so we can communicate. It's exhausting speaking to a robot that spits out the same 4 lines.
 
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Its not some weird riddle. Refs cost detroit 3 wins. Moral victories and you should feel better about the team going forward

The issue is we have to finish 8-3 or better now. I think its probable and will be pissed if its 6-5 and i have to ppint back to ref mistakes why we are 8-8 and not 11-5
 
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Saying caldwell is a terrible coach is the same exact thing by the way as true win. Its an opinion. An opinion some dont agree with.

If it doesn't show up in the W column, then it isn't. Why torture yourself into believing a "true win" is a valid or meaningful stat? It isn't, and keeping track of that shit or even referring to it is pointless, and IMO makes you look like a crybaby, and a bit touched.
 
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It makes me informed and observant is what it makes me
 
Columns or tackles...which number will be higher this season for Levy?
 
Tackles. End of october hopefully. After bye at worst
 
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