Hey, a Koch Brother died today

[byco42]

Another reminder that we are only here for a brief time and to prepare for eternal life while we are here.

 

[Michchamp]

Another reminder that we are only here for a brief time and to prepare for eternal life while we are here.

that's why I'm fighting the good fight, and walking in the footsteps of Christ (unintentionally so, maybe but still)

 

[tomdalton22]

Another reminder that we are only here for a brief time and to prepare for eternal life while we are here.

what percentage of my income am I supposed to give to the church in order to go to heaven?

We have been getting our monthly donation envelopes for 17 years reminding us to give (since we had to join the local catholic because my wife wanted to baptize our son) . Not one time have we received a letter asking us why we don't go to church or inviting us back. It's almost like all they care about is the money!

What a scam!

 

[tinselwolverine]

what percentage of my income am I supposed to give to the church in order to go to heaven?

Traditionally it?s 10%.

It?s called ?the tithe? or ?tithing.?

I think a person is also supposed to receive Holy Communion at least once a year, on Easter.

 

[tomdalton22]

Traditionally it?s 10%.

It?s called ?the tithe? or ?tithing.?

I think a person is also supposed to receive Holy Communion at least once a year, on Easter.

damn...that seems like a lot! (both 10% and going to church once a year)

 

[Michchamp]

damn...that seems like a lot! (both 10% and going to church once a year)

I was in a church twice in the past year: once for my cousin's wedding, and once when a torrential downpour made the local streets impassable from 7 pm to 7 am the next morning, and I had to sleep in one because I couldn't get home, even on foot, without having to wade through waist deep floodwater (NO THANKS)

 

[byco42]

what percentage of my income am I supposed to give to the church in order to go to heaven?

We have been getting our monthly donation envelopes for 17 years reminding us to give (since we had to join the local catholic because my wife wanted to baptize our son) . Not one time have we received a letter asking us why we don't go to church or inviting us back. It's almost like all they care about is the money!

What a scam!

If you were a devout Catholic, you would not have to be invited. You would want to go on your own. You are responsible for your own salvation, but you can ask for assistance, too. "Why have you refused to attend Mass?" is the relevant question. And don't complain about the method of reminder that is actually inviting you back every month. Churches have expenses like any other enterprise.

 

[biggunsbob]

There?s another thread about this.

He must have been beloved to the posters on this board.

I deleted it. I should have known better and put it on the politics board . Was going to but was unsure where to put it.

 

[biggunsbob]

I can’t afford 10%. I give when I can to causes. I guess if I’m not good enough for god so be it. Nothing I can do to change his or her mind if it has to be money.

 

[byco42]

I am baffled by all the bright, good people in this forum who believe that one has to buy his way into heaven. It's an utter falsity. There is a price for gaining admittance, but it's not currency. Yes, the Church suggests that 10% of one's gross income is donated to the parish one belongs to, but it's not a requirement to attend and no one is badgered to contribute. A parish has the same expenses of any business. I give what I can and I also donate my time and talents to the parish to which I belong. It's not just about giving money, and my meager contribution pales in comparison to the debt I owe for my redemption.

 

[Michchamp]

I am baffled by all the bright, good people in this forum who believe that one has to buy his way into heaven. It's an utter falsity. There is a price for gaining admittance, but it's not currency. Yes, the Church suggests that 10% of one's gross income is donated to the parish one belongs to, but it's not a requirement to attend and no one is badgered to contribute. A parish has the same expenses of any business. I give what I can and I also donate my time and talents to the parish to which I belong. It's not just about giving money, and my meager contribution pales in comparison to the debt I owe for my redemption.

oh, I don't believe that. to me, the message of Christ was always very clear... you do this for the least of my brothers, you do it for me.

I just don't believe any of the divinity stuff. I could do without that.

the rest of it is actually quite compatible with... socialism.

 

[Michchamp]

I can?t afford 10%. I give when I can to causes. I guess if I?m not good enough for god so be it. Nothing I can do to change his or her mind if it has to be money.

this is an example why the "flat tax" idea is such bullshit.

10% of income to the Koch Brothers is a ton of money, but they don't need it to live. They don't actually NEED it at all...

10% of your income when you're making $40K or whatever? that's bread money. rent money. and that's even without any other mouths to feed.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

I am baffled by all the bright, good people in this forum who believe that one has to buy his way into heaven. It's an utter falsity. There is a price for gaining admittance, but it's not currency. Yes, the Church suggests that 10% of one's gross income is donated to the parish one belongs to, but it's not a requirement to attend and no one is badgered to contribute. A parish has the same expenses of any business. I give what I can and I also donate my time and talents to the parish to which I belong. It's not just about giving money, and my meager contribution pales in comparison to the debt I owe for my redemption.

Must be the expensive decor.

Ecuador

Brasil

Italy

Portugal

 

[tigermud]

Good lord those ginormous pics make all the posts super tiny

 

[tigermud]

This thread should go super off the rails now speaking of churches and 10% I?ve struggled for years with whether to keep going or not just don?t find it connecting and have any meaningful relationships with anyone and I?m not comfortable expressing faith or leading prayer groups with people I don?t really know have been giving less and less there and more to supporting the infowars crew helping fight the good fight we need more music around here

 

[tigermud]

https://youtu.be/9qD0Bjc8cnI

 

[biggunsbob]

I will give money to keep from seeing anything from infowars. Now Alex Jones. That is a guy who could use a little Hell time. If there is such a thing. That guy is pure evil.

 

[tigermud]

Meh he?s not as bad as the hate networks would have you believe bob, he?s just a little crazy is all and that?s not always a bad thing

All that negative energy will drain ya into poor health my friend don?t let all that trump hate consume you, get well

 

[byco42]

As for the images of those magnificient churches, they stilll pale in comparison to the majesty of Heaven, but they are man's best effort.

 

[byco42]

This thread should go super off the rails now speaking of churches and 10% I?ve struggled for years with whether to keep going or not just don?t find it connecting and have any meaningful relationships with anyone and I?m not comfortable expressing faith or leading prayer groups with people I don?t really know have been giving less and less there and more to supporting the infowars crew helping fight the good fight we need more music around here

C'mon, TM, Koch's passing led to this because what else was there left to say? He was decently smeared and decently dismissed as a corrupt, greedy capitalist with no regard for humanity.