Hey ESPN insiders...

[brewer229]

The highest completion % of QBs under pressure was Peyton Manning at 58.1%. Most are below 50%

Hey Manning under pressure is only .4% worse than Staffs season number.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If they get close they can throw the QB off and cause a bad throw. You don't have to sack them every time. Most incompletes are due to almost hitting home but not quite.

Of course getting pressures will lead to more incomplete..the problem, the Lions problem - they get pressure, QB throws incomplete next play they throw 1st down pass because the previous pressure didn't cause a turnover. One time, no bigger but when it keeps happening it's a problem.

 

[LKP]

Of course getting pressures will lead to more incomplete..the problem, the Lions problem - they get pressure, QB throws incomplete next play they throw 1st down pass because the previous pressure didn't cause a turnover. One time, no bigger but when it keeps happening it's a problem.

Or maybe that play there was no pressure. The three 80 yarders we gave up. No pressure. And some of that was due to injury on Houston.

 

[LKP]

Mathis had 6th lowest comp % in the league. Slay in year 2 can be much better. Quin had lowest QB rating against him of all safeties. This secondary can cover especially with pressure help. Houston hurt couldn't cover and when Delmas was out of position we gave up big ones

 

[LKP]

Quin at free safety, Ihedigbo limits them and Slay development can easily fix the big plays allowed. Also less predictability with these blitzes will help a ton.

Detroit blitzing more makes us less predictable. That's the key. It's not a certain high number of blitzes, we have the front four to get pressure but the blitz changes up the looks and the offenses must adjust.

 

[dubbsco]

It's weird that you pick one stat to describe how that player is overall. I'm a pretty darn good three point shooter when I play pickup bball and in my leagues. It's what I specialize in. But I lack in many other areas. You have to look at the whole picture. On the whole, Quin is a decent safety. He's not elite. He isn't even in the same ball park as Thomas.

 

[LKP]

Completion % is huge, his ypc wassolid, his missed tackles were low. only 3 TDs allowed on the year. His coverage rating was 21st in league out of like 100 CBs.

Mathis played really well other than ints. It's a fact, not an opinion, fact.

 

[tomdalton22]

Hey Manning under pressure is only .4% worse than Staffs season number.

lol

 

[LKP]

Opposing QBs Under Pressure

Week 1-4

30/59 1 TD and 4 ints. 3-1 record

Weeks 5-8
11/40 0 TD and 2 ints 2-2 record

 

[LKP]

Week 10-13
25/49 3 TDs and 1 int. Big Ben did well (6/10 2 TDs) and Glennon threw his short TD. 1-3 record

 

[Mitchrapp]

Opposing QBs Under Pressure

Week 1-4

30/59 1 TD and 4 ints. 3-1 record

Weeks 5-8
11/40 0 TD and 2 ints 2-2 record

I didn't realize the season was only 8 games long and btw, week 1-4 at over 50%, not good.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Week 10-13
25/49 3 TDs and 1 int. Big Ben did well (6/10 2 TDs) and Glennon threw his short TD. 1-3 record

Again over 50%. For most at under 50% on pressures, we sure give it up.

 

[UMRules06]

Again over 50%. For most at under 50% on pressures, we sure give it up.

They still do better when they pressure though. That's the whole idea. Even if it's not "as good" as other teams in the league, the Lions defense is still better off in this scenario. And it's pretty darn close to 50% you're kind of nitpicking that number a bit.

 

[LKP]

Week 14-17

24/46 1 TD (Eli) and 0 ints

Overall 90/194 (46%) 5 TDs and 7 ints

Pressure is very important for this secondary. Half of our ints and a ton of incompletes.

The average comp % for QBs under pressure is 47%

Lions pressure is huge. And Lions are a good pressure team

 

[LKP]

I didn't realize the season was only 8 games long and btw, week 1-4 at over 50%, not good.

1 TD and 4 ints. It was good. Every 4 games it was good other than at Pit. Big Ben is the only one who beat our pressure on 10 throws. And Big Ben makes a living beating pressure. He's a big QB who escapes pressure all the time. It's how he plays.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Quin at free safety, Ihedigbo limits them and Slay development can easily fix the big plays allowed. Also less predictability with these blitzes will help a ton.

Detroit blitzing more makes us less predictable. That's the key. It's not a certain high number of blitzes, we have the front four to get pressure but the blitz changes up the looks and the offenses must adjust.

You mean the one 80 yarder he got out maneuvered and then did the old "I'm injured bit". The Rodney Peete thing..

 

[LKP]

You mean the one 80 yarder he got out maneuvered and then did the old "I'm injured bit". The Rodney Peete thing..

He missed the next game dumbass. And 3 at the end of the season. He was hurt. It's a fact.

Let's look at TDs
Quin 0, Slay 4, Mathis 3, Bentley 2, Levy 1 and Tulloch 1
Backups 4 (2 Carey, 1 Green, 1 Greenwood)

Florence 1, Ihedigbo 1

Houston 5 and Delmas 4

Even if Slay is horrible and combines with what Houston did that's 9 (5+4), 3 Mathis again, 1 Ihedigbo again, 0 Quin again, 1 Tulloch, 1 Levy, 2 Bentley again

9 was worst in the league last year by the way. So if Slay has 9, everyone else repeats. Lions are still top 5 in least passing TDs allowed.

That's 17 which would be top 3 in league.

We'll give the backups 2 too (even though Florence had one). 19 would be 5th tying San Fran.

This secondary can be good.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Can be good? I suppose so. Will be good? That's the question.

 

[dubbsco]

When the pressure was the strongest, the last half of the season, Stafford imploded. He just needed to get this team one damn win and he couldn't.

 

[tomdalton22]

When the pressure was the strongest, the last half of the season, Stafford imploded. He just needed to get this team one damn win and he couldn't.

According to LKP, Stafford had 8 "true wins" in the second 1/2 and they won the "true Super Bowl". Stafford was the "true Super Bowl MVP" and he went to "True Disney World"