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Hockey News interview with Holland.

I read that when it came out and I got out of was he will be here for the foreseeable future. No hint at anywhere else. If I had to guess Stevie Y. takes a year off next season and then heads to Seattle.

One potential problem if they let Blashill go is Holland still has another year so if you hire a new coach and then he leaves new GM gets a coach he might not want. So Maybe Blashill gets another year -- assuming Holland leaves after his contract is up.
 
Blashill gone after year.

After 4 years of failure, he will be gone at end of year. Bylsma or someone else will take over.

I find it funny that there isn't much pressure to dump him now.
 
Polish-Hammer said:
Blashill gone after year.

After 4 years of failure, he will be gone at end of year. Bylsma or someone else will take over.

I find it funny that there isn't much pressure to dump him now.
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I don't see an advantage to dump a guy this early in the season just to replace him with a guy we already have. Especially a guy like Bylsma. I rather have Blashill over him..
 
This team isn't going to be a winner under any coach right now. But I do think there's some value in getting that next phase going. Blashill's entire team setup is bad, and seems to be putting the young guys into bad situations (no real strategy or smart positioning). Get a coach who can instill any sort of defensive system, and at least we have somewhere to work from when the talent develops.

Right now I worry that even after we get some good talent, our current young guys will have developed bad habits from Blashill's system.
 
everyoneneedsasmil said:
This team isn't going to be a winner under any coach right now. But I do think there's some value in getting that next phase going. Blashill's entire team setup is bad, and seems to be putting the young guys into bad situations (no real strategy or smart positioning). Get a coach who can instill any sort of defensive system, and at least we have somewhere to work from when the talent develops.

Right now I worry that even after we get some good talent, our current young guys will have developed bad habits from Blashill's system.
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Problem is we don't have that guy. And like any sub par in house coach after the season we hire someone else, more new coaches for the young guys, or keep the sub par coach the following year with a 2 year deal.

Do we really have a better option than Blashill at this point?
 
Bylsma is that option at this point. That is pretty much the reason he was hired to coaching staff.

Right now the excuse of 'oh he entire D is injured' is gonna hold for a while longer.
 
Bylsma? The guy from Buffalo, that Bylsma? It's easier to win with a stacked team like the one he had in Pittsburgh. Granted he only had 2 seasons in Buffalo but not sure he would have a better time working on a rebuild than Blashill. And I don't want Bylsma long term.


I rather just fire Blashill at seasons end and see who's available at that time.
 
I mean, Bylsma only had 26 points increase over the 2 seasons before his tenure.

Housley's first season after Bylsma saw a 16 point drop over B. Granted not exactly Housley's fault, Buffalo ain't exactly featuring a great roster.

2016-17 Detroit/Bufflo were equally bad in the standings, yet I'd give the roster edge decidedly in Detroit's favour.
 
Polish-Hammer said:
I mean, Bylsma only had 26 points increase over the 2 seasons before his tenure.

Housley's first season after Bylsma saw a 16 point drop over B. Granted not exactly Housley's fault, Buffalo ain't exactly featuring a great roster.

2016-17 Detroit/Bufflo were equally bad in the standings, yet I'd give the roster edge decidedly in Detroit's favour.
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Decidedly? We must be seeing different teams. And then we lost one of our best players. Regardless who's a better coach I just don't see Bylsma better at managing a rebuild. And lets say we get a new GM who wants his own coach then these young guys are being taught by 3 different coaches in 2 years .. that can't be good.
 
2015-16 top 6
Datsyuk
Zetterberg
Larkin
Tatar
Nyquist
Abdelkader

2015-16 Top 6
O'Reilly
Eichel
Reinhart
Kane
Gionta
Moulson or Foligno

Gionta/Moulson/Foligno might be around Abbie's level.
Kane when tries would be above Nyquist/Tatar but at or below their level on a nightly basis.
Reinhardt is now around Nyquist/Tatar level.
Eichel maybe slight edge over Larkin at that point. Offensively, defensively he still isn't anywhere near Larkin.
O'Reilly at that time maybe near aging Z, but Dats still above.

Top 4 D
Ristolainen
Bogosian
Gorges
McCabe

Top 4D
Kronwall
Green
DK (prior to big contract and 0 effort)
Quincey


Ristolainen probably best of the D.
Wouldn't put McCabe or Gorges past Quincey level
Not sure how to rate Bogosian but he was already on the decline towards what DK is now.

Goalies 2015-16
Johnson
Lehner
Ullmark

Goalies 2015-16
Mrazek (before falling off a cliff)
Howard

Goaltending decidedly in Wings advantage.


I'll so 2016-17 after too tired at this point
 
I read an article from last year saying the team wanted Yzerman and move Holland up but Holland refused. In another article I read Yzerman wouldn't play for Chris Illitch. No idea why.
 
biggunsbob said:
Not sure I like Holland doing the rebuilding at all.
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Definitely sure that I don't. Because it should have begin in 2013 or so. Instead he signed a lot of marginal players to long-term deals to actually arrest any progress in rebuilding. They are still paying Franzen.
 
byco42 said:
Definitely sure that I don't. Because it should have begin in 2013 or so. Instead he signed a lot of marginal players to long-term deals to actually arrest any progress in rebuilding. They are still paying Franzen.
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Technically, the insurance company is paying Franzen.
 
Mitchrapp said:
I read that when it came out and I got out of was he will be here for the foreseeable future. No hint at anywhere else. If I had to guess Stevie Y. takes a year off next season and then heads to Seattle.

One potential problem if they let Blashill go is Holland still has another year so if you hire a new coach and then he leaves new GM gets a coach he might not want. So Maybe Blashill gets another year -- assuming Holland leaves after his contract is up.
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Uhh pretty sure the reason Stevie has stepped down because he was too far away from his family and never gets to spend time with them... They live in DETROIT... What has pointed to him going to Seattle even in the slightest? He wants to be with his family, that's in Detroit, so how would being in Seattle be any different than Tampa? Why would you leave a great situation like Tampa to go to a complete unknown risky job with an expansion team THAT IS EVEN FARTHER FROM MI THAN FL..... Also all this Blash hating I mean I get it, we are a bad team but have been showing MANY signs of improvement over the past 10ish games... If Blash was such a horrible coach, pretty sure USA hockey wouldn't have him coaching their guys if he was SO bad... A new coach and system would only put this team back farther than it already is....
 
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kmd47 said:
Uhh pretty sure the reason Stevie has stepped down because he was too far away from his family and never gets to spend time with them... They live in DETROIT... What has pointed to him going to Seattle even in the slightest? He wants to be with his family, that's in Detroit, so how would being in Seattle be any different than Tampa? Why would you leave a great situation like Tampa to go to a complete unknown risky job with an expansion team THAT IS EVEN FARTHER FROM MI THAN FL..... Also all this Blash hating I mean I get it, we are a bad team but have been showing MANY signs of improvement over the past 10ish games... If Blash was such a horrible coach, pretty sure USA hockey wouldn't have him coaching their guys if he was SO bad... A new coach and system would only put this team back farther than it already is....
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I hadn't heard he was leaving for those reasons. So my opinion was based on what I read and my opinion (Seattle) -- :cheers:
 
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