How Sinclair Broadcasting puts a partisan spin using "trusted" local news stations

[turok]

LOL oh for the love of the lord, what was that you'll have to complain to the forum owner if you really think that'll do anything, whining will get you nowhere, who cares if that crazy guy in CA attacked you or not. I get no support here hardly at all either everybody thinks I'm a nutjob and gosh darn it I like it that way!

The forum manager is unlikely to act, unless he receives more than one complaint about a DSF member, but I was under the impression that is the responsibility of forum moderators to do the "policing". Unfortunately for DSF, that rarely if ever happens, and instead a couple of mods who I have read are or have been instigators instead. I won't and have never complained, since there is an ignore feature available, but unfortunately it doesn't work for mods...oh, well...might have to recode a Tampermonkey script...if successful, I will make a post on DJ to share it via PM with any other member who is interested....>

 

[tigermud]

The forum manager is unlikely to act, unless he receives more than one complaint about a DSF member, but I was under the impression that is the responsibility of forum moderators to do the "policing". Unfortunately for DSF, that rarely if ever happens, and instead a couple of mods who I have read are or have been instigators instead. I won't and have never complained, since there is an ignore feature available, but unfortunately it doesn't work for mods...oh, well...might have to recode a Tampermonkey script...if successful, I will make a post on DJ to share it via PM with any other member who is interested....>

honestly, I don't even know if he is still around, haven't seen him in any of the boards I keep up with for months. He used to give me shit all the time for my views.

 

[Gulo Blue]

When it comes to press and the media, I would be far more worried about the White House suppressing dissent. The misrepresentation of a national organization as a local thing is sketchy, but having a Bully Pulpit isn't really a crime.

 

[turok]

but there are no unbiased channels left to peruse to begin with. your problem is they will have less access to left leaning networks but it's not Sinclair broadcasting's fault that people are cutting the cord nor is it their responsibility to ensure people can still see leftist programming like CNN and MSNBC. I doubt this will be the big problem it's being made out to be - won't the local affiliates will still carry left leaning national news from the major networks and they'll still get their George Stephanopolous and other leftist talking heads on Sunday mornings.

CNN and MSNBC are cable/satellite/internet only and do not broadcast over the air via DTV. And just b/c you are so far to the right that every M$M outlet is "leftist" in your opinion, doesn't make them so. The gist of the matter is not national news, but unbiased/neutral local news programming. If Sinclair wishes to present a conservative op-ed mingled with their affiliates' local news reporting, then they should do like CNN, who has members of the opposing ideology/party in the studios to provide a dissenting POV.

 

[Spartanmack]

CNN and MSNBC are cable/satellite/internet only and do not broadcast over the air via DTV. And just b/c you are so far to the right that every M$M outlet is "leftist" in your opinion, doesn't make them so. The gist of the matter is not national news, but unbiased/neutral local news programming. If Sinclair wishes to present a conservative op-ed mingled with their affiliates' local news reporting, then they should do like CNN, who has members of the opposing ideology/party in the studios to provide a dissenting POV.

I know they're not available over the air, that's why I said it's not Sinclair's fault that so many people are cutting the cord - they can't do anything about that. Me being a conservative isn't what makes MSM leftist, it's the fact that they're all Democrats, mostly very liberal if not, leftist. Just because they claim to be objective and you happen to be a leftist who buys into that claim, doesn't make them so.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I think the idea that mainstream news is mostly very liberal is to a large degree the right shifting as far as they did. We just used to agree quite a bit more than we do now. We'd agree that a problem needed to be fixed and argue over the fix being more carrot or stick, more national or local. Now we disagree over whether problems are even problems and any action to fix them makes you a "liberal".

 

[Michchamp]

I think the idea that mainstream news is mostly very liberal is to a large degree the right shifting as far as they did. We just used to agree quite a bit more than we do now. We'd agree that a problem needed to be fixed and argue over the fix being more carrot or stick, more national or local. Now we disagree over whether problems are even problems and any action to fix them makes you a "liberal".

according to a new study, this is due to us thinking of politics in terms of a "team sport." (link):

But what if the source of this polarization has little do with where people actually fall on the issues, or what people actually believe in? What if people are simply polarized by political labels like ?liberal? and ?conservative? and what they imagine their opponents to be like more than they are by disagreements over issues like taxes, abortion, and immigration?

That news wouldn?t surprise anybody who?s spent time battling it out in a news outlet?s comment section, and it?s the firm conclusion of new research by Lilliana Mason, a professor at the University of Maryland.​

In line with what you're saying, the article says this divide is detrimental for democracy, because it focuses solely on defeating your perceived enemies, regardless of the issue or the consequences.

The article says we should talk less about politics and more about things we can find common ground on... like the weather, family, personal issues, hobbies, etc.

So... let's rename the politics board maybe, and start talking about things that bring us together, instead of driving us apart?

 

[Michchamp]

I think we can all agree that it's bad for one company to control so many stations; given that monopolies, or even duopolies or oligopolies are destructive to markets and competition.

and there needs to be a state solution (note, there already is: Anti-Trust laws, which are just not enforced), since "the market" without state intervention favors consolidation and the elimination of competition.

and it's bad for a publisher/station owner to dictate content and coverage; journalists and editors should be free to reach their own conclusions, within the bounds of objective reason and journalistic ethics: seeking true representations of both sides' positions, and not accepting one sides' assertions as facts.

capisce?

 

[Gulo Blue]

So... let's rename the politics board maybe, and start talking about things that bring us together, instead of driving us apart?

I can't find the original paper, but I'm all ready to buy into it. I've heard at least one people calling it tribalism, claiming most of human history we've been lived in groups of 50-100 people and strong identity association with your group was probably strategically beneficial, so we're hard-wired to think this way.

You'd think we could agree to spend a mountain of money on infrastructure. I've read that it's an ok investment when the economy is expanding, but infrastructure spending during economic downturns is a no brainer.

 

[sggatecl]

I can't find the original paper, but I'm all ready to buy into it. I've heard at least one people calling it tribalism, claiming most of human history we've been lived in groups of 50-100 people and strong identity association with your group was probably strategically beneficial, so we're hard-wired to think this way.

Sounds similiar to nationalism, which I detest.

You'd think we could agree to spend a mountain of money on infrastructure. I've read that it's an ok investment when the economy is expanding, but infrastructure spending during economic downturns is a no brainer.

:cheers:

 

[Michchamp]

I can't find the original paper, but I'm all ready to buy into it. ...

it's linked in the article I posted. here.

members of my tribe usually read thoroughly and don't miss things like that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

it's linked in the article I posted. here.

members of my tribe usually read thoroughly and don't miss things like that.

That's funny. I give things a rough skim and copy/paste author names and titles into google because most writing about papers is crap, which turned up a link to a blocked version of this paper.

One of the things looked at in this paper involves asking people 'When talking about [identity]s, how often do you use ?we? instead of ?they??' which is sort of interesting in the context of sports message boards where some people get bent out of shape over we/they.

 

[tinselwolverine]

One of the things looked at in this paper involves asking people 'When talking about [identity]s, how often do you use ?we? instead of ?they??' which is sort of interesting in the context of sports message boards where some people get bent out of shape over we/they.

Those people have too much time on their hands.

That said, I usually go with "our team" or "our guys..."

Because it's accurate.

I'm not on or part of any team.

But it's my team that I root for.

And when there is more than one fan of a team in the discussion, it's our team.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Those people have too much time on their hands.

That said, I usually go with "our team" or "our guys..."

Because it's accurate.

I'm not on or part of any team.

But it's my team that I root for.

And when there is more than one fan of a team in the discussion, it's our team.

I think I usually say "they", but not always. I feel like part of being a fan is letting yourself do the identity thing they're talking about here. To varying degrees, we all have a tendency to pick a group to "be a part of" and be biased about. With politics, gangs, and nationalism, it can easily be a negative thing. With sports, if you're actually on the team, it can be positive or a negative depending on how it's coached. With sports fandom, it's a mostly harmless outlet. Tech connecting everybody has made jackasses get uglier with it whether it's politics, religion, race, or sports, but of those, I think even the jackasses do the least damage when they're sports fans.

 

[Michchamp]

I find myself using "us" and "we" when we win, and "them" and "they" when we lose.

then I laugh at myself for taking it all too seriously, and go sit under the Bodhi tree for an hour and meditate.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I find myself using "us" and "we" when we win, and "them" and "they" when we lose.

then I laugh at myself for taking it all too seriously, and go sit under the Bodhi tree for an hour and meditate.

I've heard that's the opposite of a good strategy for management. Give your employees the credit for wins by telling them what 'you' or 'they' did right; talk about how 'we' need to get better when things need improvement.