I didn't know this was a rule

[tomdalton22]

Even minor league umps think the fans are there to see them.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Could have had something to do with the fact the player was staring the umpire down as well the whole time as well.

I would to on that horseshit call. Look, he had every right to do it and maybe ml players should just hit and not argue but IMO, I still say the ump could have held on a bit longer.

 

[Thumb]

Even minor league umps think the fans are there to see them.

Perhaps, but it's a very basic rule that you MAY NOT argue balls and strikes.

Also if the pitcher is on the rubber it's considered a 'live ball' and the batter should be in the box unless he asks for, and receives time out.

There is no question the umpire probably reacted more hastily than most would, but he clearly was within the rules.

 

[byco42]

Okay, I saw it that time. Twice he motioned but they were awfully quick. I mean, doesn't a player get a moment to collect himself? Under the rule he had transgression but come on..

That hitter was not "collecting himself" he was being a jerk and he deserved to get tossed. He spends several seconds in the box arguing the call, steps out, the umpire orders him back in the box, the batter says something and does not move, gets strike two called on him, the umpire orders the hitter back in the box again, the hitter makes no motion to get in the box (based on where he was standing after the broadcast cut to the pitcher) and the ump called the third strike.

If anyone was making a show of the matter it was the hitter.

 

[tomdalton22]

That hitter was not "collecting himself" he was being a jerk and he deserved to get tossed. He spends several seconds in the box arguing the call, steps out, the umpire orders him back in the box, the batter says something and does not move, gets strike two called on him, the umpire orders the hitter back in the box again, the hitter makes no motion to get in the box (based on where he was standing after the broadcast cut to the pitcher) and the ump called the third strike.

If anyone was making a show of the matter it was the hitter.

9.4 seconds. That is too short. Watch the game tonight....guys will stand outside the box without calling time for longer than 5 seconds at a time. If it was the balls and strike issue just throw him out but ringing him up on strikes in that short of a time frame is bull shit IMO

 

[Mitchrapp]

About ordering him back to the box. He quickly motioned 1, 2, and bam strike 2. They were very subtle motions. He might have been a dick but so was the ump.

 

[Thumb]

9.4 seconds. That is too short. Watch the game tonight....guys will stand outside the box without calling time for longer than 5 seconds at a time. If it was the balls and strike issue just throw him out but ringing him up on strikes in that short of a time frame is bull shit IMO

No they won't.

Not when the Pitcher is on the rubber. You can step out in between pitches, but that guy didn't step out after the pitch, he argues with the Umpire while in the box, then when the pitcher was back and ready the batter stepped out. That does not happen in MLB, or those players would be told to get back in the box as well.

 

[byco42]

9.4 seconds. That is too short. Watch the game tonight....guys will stand outside the box without calling time for longer than 5 seconds at a time. If it was the balls and strike issue just throw him out but ringing him up on strikes in that short of a time frame is bull shit IMO

It has nothing to do with a prescribed time. Read 6.02. (c) and (d) You may argue the "reasonable time" clause written there, but if a batter refuses to get in the box, that's null.

The batter was intentionally delaying the game and got two strikes called on him for doing that.

 

[Mitchrapp]

No they won't.

Not when the Pitcher is on the rubber. You can step out in between pitches, but that guy didn't step out after the pitch, he argues with the Umpire while in the box, then when the pitcher was back and ready the batter stepped out. That does not happen in MLB, or those players would be told to get back in the box as well.

Not necessarily. When guys take time to adjust gloves and whatnot they're not asking the umps to give them a timeout each time..regardless if the P is on the rubber.