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Dude was 21-21 in stolen bases. Its not the speed that makes you go perfect but the base running ability.
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Ichiro would be the most logical choice in lf...
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Dude was 21-21 in stolen bases. Its not the speed that makes you go perfect but the base running ability.
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I like adding Ichiro because he adds a different dimension. Yes he may be declining but he is still a decent player and would match well I think with our team.
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ichiro pros:
- he can still play decent/good defense
- he can run the bases smartly and fairly well still
ichiro cons:
- he walks less than delmon young
- he barely gets on base these days. as thumb said, this negates his baserunning skills. whats the point if he cant get on?
- he has absolutely zero power
- he will likely not come cheap despite his age
there is no reason we should sign him. it makes much more sense to just get a RH platoon partner for Dirks who crushes lefties and is at least decent on defense. we can keep berry on the roster if we want someone who can run the bases well.
- he can still play decent/good defense
- he can run the bases smartly and fairly well still
ichiro cons:
- he walks less than delmon young
- he barely gets on base these days. as thumb said, this negates his baserunning skills. whats the point if he cant get on?
- he has absolutely zero power
- he will likely not come cheap despite his age
there is no reason we should sign him. it makes much more sense to just get a RH platoon partner for Dirks who crushes lefties and is at least decent on defense. we can keep berry on the roster if we want someone who can run the bases well.
It was pretty much the speed.
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No faith in his NY numbers at the plate? And is a declining defense by his standards poor defense?
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None what so ever. Look at his splits in NY.
Ichiro with NYY Away .282 BAVG .292 OBP .336 SLG .628 OPS
Ichiro with NYY Home .359 BAVG .385 OBP .564 SLG .949 OPS
Certainly, Ichiro is still an above average defensive OFer. I find there not to be any value in Ichiro, except his defense. His speed is negated by his lack of getting on base. No power, does not draw walks, etc, etc.
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I don't buy the argument that he was good at it but it was the speed while AJ success or lack of was poor base running. Granted Berry is fast but even the fastest guys get caught, you have to have some skill at it to be successful.
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Okay. You convinced me. Thanks.
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Last 3 years in Comerica .310 BAVG .329 OBP .380 SLG .709 OPS
2001 in Comerica .444 BAVG .500 OBP .444 SLG .944 OPS
2002 in Comerica .294 BAVG .333 OBP .294 SLG .627 OPS
2003 in Comerica .571 BAVG .600 OBP .929 SLG 1.529 OPS
2004 in Comerica .433 BAVG .452 OBP .700 SLG 1.152 OPS
2001-2004 .429 BAVG .459 OBP .614 SLG 1.074 OPS
Since 2004 .313 BAVG .342 OBP .403 SLG .745 OPS
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