Is There Anyone on These Boards Who Has Never Smoked Weed?

[zyxt9]

25 years ago, I sat out front of the cousin's house that they had grown up in Ozone Park. Someone pulled out a doob and torched it up.

I was pretty sure smokin' pot was illegal in The City of New York, but, having grown up in Ann Arbor during the $5 pot law era - well, hell - ya never know...

So I asked "Isn't smoking pot here illegal?"

"You pretty much have to blow smoke straight into a cop's face to get busted."

Pot is about as decriminalized in The City of New York as it is in Colorado, Oregon, or Amsterdam.

When it eventually officially becomes decriminalized there, not much is going to change.

it's the assholes who smoke it in or right next to kid parks who bother me the most. they should allow parents to kick their asses since the cops won't do shit about it...but probably a good percent of the young parents are doing it with their own children in the house, toting away and giving their kids contact highs multiple times a day.

then there are things like:
http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/23/marijuana-use-linked-to-heart-problems/

not saying this is actually a legit study, just saying there probably has not been thorough enough studies about potential harmful effects. of course if Big Pharma can get away with it, why can't the dealers...especially with how much money they will probably make.

and yes, I know alcohol causes liver damage, blah, blah, blah. just pointing out that pot might not be as harmless as advertised, kind of like cigarette smoking was made into such a cool thing then, OOPS!

 

[TheVictors]

I've never heard someone so concerned over second hand pot smoke or the idea of a "contact high." While weed, alcohol, pills ...all of it have consequences and/or side-effects to their use, it's not like someone smoking weed "adjacent to a playground" is getting a bunch of kids high.

Second hand cigarette smoke is so far more dangerous and so accepted ...where's the outrage? I've been at intersections where the parent driver is smoking away with a kid in the car.

And ...not to allow facts to get in the way of a good hypothetical conversation, but smoking weed here in Colorado where it is legal - is still ILLEGAL in public places. It's also illegal for anyone under 21yrs of age and illegal to operate a motor vehicle under the influence.

Here in an "active state" like Colorado, smoking cigarettes in bars and restaurants has long been illegal. You are in as much trouble at a hotel for smoking weed in a room as you are for smoking cancer sticks. In enlightened NYC, the collective ban on smoking in bars simply pushed smokers out on to the sidewalk where they blocked pedestrians and subjected passers by to second hand cigarette smoke ...while sparing bar patrons and employees from it. Ask someone in a 3rd floor walkup near a bar if they preferred the smokers to be in the bar on out front.

Kids have been brining guns and pharm pills to school for years ...along with Daddy's cough syrup. The idea that "legalizing" is somehow now worse for the same reasons is hypocritical.

If guns don't kill people, other people do ....than it's stupid bad parents smoking weed who allow their kids access just stupid bad gun-owners and pill poppers.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I've never heard someone so concerned over second hand pot smoke or the idea of a "contact high." While weed, alcohol, pills ...all of it have consequences and/or side-effects to their use, it's not like someone smoking weed "adjacent to a playground" is getting a bunch of kids high.

Ha!

I was sort of thinking this myself.

I could see how a person in a very small but crowded venue where EVERYBODY around them was blowing weed and the place was filled with second pot smoke, the sole non pot smoker might get a light contact high.

Just smelling the shit walking down the street?

Methinks that would be in the person's head...not the thc in that person's head, because there isn't any...just in the person's head in the way we normally take it to mean...

 

[TheVictors]

The whole "contact high" is largely a myth unless under the circumstances you describe, but who wants anybody exhaling anything at them?

I was at the airport a few months ago and seated between two people using e-cigarettes and blowing their second-hand vapor in my face, while lauding how "safe" e-cigs are and how awesome it is to be able to smoke in the airport.

I quite bluntly and simply said, "the jury is still out on those things and regardless, I don't appreciate you guys blowing your vapor in my face."

They were shocked and immediately stopped e-smoking.

I can imagine a similar situation at a playground, though our weed smokers aren't hard core thugs who'd throw the law in some Mom's face for asking them to smoke down the road...

 

[Michchamp]

Here's the take of a UM professor (?) who taught McGary in a class addressing the criticism McGary has received (link):

So step off. Lay off my student, who is, after all, doing nothing more than what we should all want for ourselves and those we love: imperfectly going about the work of making his real life look like his dreams. Instead of stewing in your suburban hole where you stoke the glowing embers of your resentment by bullying those weaker than you and berating the strong from a safe distance, all in the guise of pseudo-objective moral judgments, try to step up and make your own life what you?d like it to be. It?s not too late for you. It?s never too late.​

 

[Michlady]

I used to work down the hall from a pulmonary research lab who did work with pit

Every so often they had time studies and you could smell it
We use to joke about contac high but it was a joke

 

[Michlady]

I've never picked up on a depressed vibe from you (which means nothing because I'm slow to pick up on that kind of stuff.)

There's a web cartoonist that I really like, but her humor is hit or miss. A lot of people think it's great and show it to their friends and they just don't see the appeal. She quit posting at one point because she landed a book deal. Then a long time passed and she posted the following post revealing that she was depressed. Then about another year passed and she posted a follow up.

Post 1

Post 2

I've heard on a couple occasions that it's a great description of depression and I think it might be useful in helping people that don't understand to avoid some of the knee-jerk reactions we are prone to. Anyway, I think it's a good read. Probably about 10 minutes each.

Yeah been there

Starting as teen

 

[Mitchrapp]

I never understood the pot smoking to begin with. Outside of using it at home when you have much pain from an illness.

Otherwise what does it do for you?

 

[tinselwolverine]

I never understood the pot smoking to begin with. Outside of using it at home when you have much pain from an illness.

Otherwise what does it do for you?

It gets you stoned, dude.

Like a lot of people here, I too never liked weed as much as I like to drink. So I haven't smoked pot in years also.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Yeah been there

Starting as teen

Well, if this board gets you to "maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit"-mode every once and a while, that would be about the strongest argument for justifying the time we devote to it.

...but you might want to keep avoiding the religion and politics sections. That would reinforce the everything is hopeless bullshit position.

 

[Michchamp]

when i was in law school, me and a couple friends came up with the premise that you could replace the dictionary definition of "nerd" with the phrase "someone who has never smoked weed before" and it would be 100% accurate. we then started going through all our classmates who smoked and those who didnt and concluded our premise was ironclad and 100% accurate. you can try it yourself... it's beyond dispute at this point.

 

[zyxt9]

when i was in law school, me and a couple friends came up with the premise that you could replace the dictionary definition of "nerd" with the phrase "someone who has never smoked weed before" and it would be 100% accurate. we then started going through all our classmates who smoked and those who didnt and concluded our premise was ironclad and 100% accurate. you can try it yourself... it's beyond dispute at this point.

when I was working in IT before being downsized, there were several guys who toted quite often. now, it depends on if you are calling tech people "nerds" or prefer the term "geeks" as we do, but to many they are synonymous. to those of us who are computer techs, we always refer to ourselves as geeks though. if you are specifically referring to nerds being the oddball outcasts from normal behavior, then I guess your data is pretty accurate.

 

[zyxt9]

Vic, you are not the one who gets a really bad headache from the second hand smoke. So while I understand your inability to grasp how second hand pot smoke can make someone so upset, there it is. I don't need it to be a full blown contact high, just having the smell enter my nostrils creates pain pressure, specifically behind my right eye, that then continues getting worse. the one time I was indoors with it, the pain was equal to a migraine and took hours to go away. granted when outside it isn't as painful as quickly, but it still happens nonetheless.

but I'm a lightweight too. went to have some dental work done and given nitrous, doc had me on lowest setting and it was too much so had to alternately turn it on and off to balance the effect, and about halfway through had to shut it off completely because it was making me too high. drug effects need to be taken on an individual basis. I'm not saying never legalize it, and the Colorado laws appear to be in line with how I think everyone wins.

as for the cigarette second hand smoke, that bothers me too from the aspect of cancer potentiality. I would definitely prefer they have cigarette clubs similar to pot clubs. make sure they are properly filtering the air vented to the outside, I'm good with that. the smoking outside of buildings in NYC has been a big problem ever since King Mike laid down his righteous law, not to mention the cig butts increased despite having ash trays available. cig smokers are pretty disgusting in their behavior, and e-cigs are not much of an improvement IMO too.

 

[Gulo Blue]

when i was in law school, me and a couple friends came up with the premise that you could replace the dictionary definition of "nerd" with the phrase "someone who has never smoked weed before" and it would be 100% accurate. we then started going through all our classmates who smoked and those who didnt and concluded our premise was ironclad and 100% accurate. you can try it yourself... it's beyond dispute at this point.

It seems they share the same territory though.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The nerd map doesn't make any sense to me.

New York AND California measure in at "few nerds?"

Brewuh, please...

 

[TheVictors]

inverse correlations ...? High Nerd rate = Low Weed Rate?

 

[Gulo Blue]

The nerd map doesn't make any sense to me.

New York AND California measure in at "few nerds?"

Brewuh, please...

I think it's % of population...and I bet it would fit with your instinct if they split CA north/south.

 

[Gulo Blue]

inverse correlations ...? High Nerd rate = Low Weed Rate?

I think it's a direct correlation. CA doesn't fit because of the north/south split. Northern CA, where the potsmokers are, is nerd central.