Joey Votto's insane stat

[tinselwolverine]

Traditionally, you are correct. However, with advanced defensive metrics, how the ball is ruled by the official scorer reflects in certain defensive metrics. You now see things like L3, P3 or F3.

So you?re saying now the official scorer who fills out the official score card now distinguishes between pop flies, fly balls and line drives?

If this is the case thank you for the update. I did not know this.

About 10 years ago I learned it to keep score and I was an official scorer for a team in an adult amateur league.

Nobody was worried about any new metrics though.

So I learned how to do it the old-fashioned way.

 

[Rebbiv]

So you?re saying now the official scorer who fills out the official score card now distinguishes between pop flies, fly balls and line drives?

If this is the case thank you for the update. I did not know this.

About 10 years ago I learned it to keep score and I was an official scorer for a team in an adult amateur league.

Nobody was worried about any new metrics though.

So I learned how to do it the old-fashioned way.

The point of score keeping is to create an accurate record of the game. A person reading a scorecard should be able to recreate the game from beginning to end, just by looking at symbols, letters, and numbers.



With that said, not all F8 are the same. F8, P8 and L8 give that event context and one reading the score card can tell how well the ball was hit.

 

[biggunsbob]

Amazing stat that is for sure.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The point of score keeping is to create an accurate record of the game. A person reading a scorecard should be able to recreate the game from beginning to end, just by looking at symbols, letters, and numbers.



With that said, not all F8 are the same. F8, P8 and L8 give that event context and one reading the score card can tell how well the ball was hit.

Well it’s a pretty good thing that scorekeeping has been updated and become more sophisticated than it was it was back in the day, when we had audio/visual records of every single event of every single ball game, as opposed to today, when the only record of what happened is the opinion of the official scorer.

It’s a shame the only record of exactly what happened is the official scorers interpretation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CvPnVlYTQp0

Technically, since it’s a foul, it should be scored differently than if it was fair-at least it used to would have been.

 

[tinselwolverine]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CvPnVlYTQp0

Spectacular.

Now that I’m seeing it with my own eyes, it is the most amazing, exciting routine put out that I have ever seen in my life.

I was dubious as to why such a hoopla was being made of this event, but again, after seeing the video, and witnessing the uniqueness of this extraordinarily ordinary routine put out, I have no words left to express my astonishment...except for...

Spectacular.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aQNkeugaAMc

 

[Rebbiv]

Sarcasm aside, modern statistics and sabermetrics could not exist with archaic score keeping. Regardless of the media coverage, there still has to be a documented record of what happened. You can continue to bemoan this fact, I do not care.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Sarcasm aside, modern statistics and sabermetrics could not exist with archaic score keeping. Regardless of the media coverage, there still has to be a documented record of what happened. You can continue to bemoan this fact, I do not care.

I?m not bemoaning anything.

In post #21 I thanked you for bringing me up to speed on these changes in modern score keeping.

I do find the attention paid to this spectacularly unimportant event amusing - a guy hit his first routine foul out to first.

Wow, man, that?s some exciting stuff.

They should figure out a way to sell tickets for people to watch that shit.

Oh wait a minute-that?s right they already did.

Here are a few more boring moments in baseball.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PkDMn2ddH9U

 

[tinselwolverine]

They should have halted the game, and given Votto the baseball as a souvenir, just like they did when that guy on the Orioles ended his MLB record hitless AB streak about a week ago.

“Hey, what’s the ceremony?”

“That’s Votto’s first routine foul out to first.”

“Oh. That’s a thing now?”

They should probably give the ball to the first baseman for making the milestone put out.