Lions work out 9 CB's

[Mitchrapp]

Trade him before other teams pick up on his character issues being worse than what is already publicized.

You make it sound like its a secret. 24/7 news, all day sports channels etc. No one is kept in the dark.

That being said, trading him would be stupid. Might as well let Suh go as well..Geez.

 

[Mitchrapp]

for the record, i'm not in favor of trading titus now, but if he continues a downward spiral and becomes a cancer to the team then he will be either cut or traded, the lions have made it pretty clear with their response to berry who they were projecting as a starter. not saying they will get rid of titus, but i'm certain they are paying close attention to his actions and personal fouls after the whistle do not help his cause.

i'm confident they talked with him about it and are continuing to help him with these behavioral issues. obviously better to help him and correct those than to lose his talent because his head is too screwed up...but how long they will tolerate such actions is anyone's guess.

Berry was maybe projected as a starter, on a team that is so CB depleted its ridiculous. Titus is a good wide out. Much more talented than berry.

 

[mhughes0021]

Berry was maybe projected as a starter, on a team that is so CB depleted its ridiculous. Titus is a good wide out. Much more talented than berry.

you need to give something to get something. IFFFFFF we are looking to add to the secondary via trade the only chips we have that are expendable are Titus, Cherilus, or a DT. With Broyles being talked up so much i have no problem with him being the #3 and future #2 if it means Titus gets traded for a starting calibur S or CB.

 

[zyxt9]

Berry was maybe projected as a starter, on a team that is so CB depleted its ridiculous. Titus is a good wide out. Much more talented than berry.

I don't deny Titus has more talent, but he is currently #3 on the WR depth chart and Broyles to push him. Due to the lack of depth at DB, losing Berry is arguably more costly despite the fact he has less talent. Just saying losing Titus and replacing him with Broyles isn't quite the same as losing Berry and replacing him with his backups. Yes, we have since improved the DBs a little by discovering Bentley is as good if not better, but that was not clear at the time Berry was released. Still, I don't think the drop off in talent or performance between Young and Broyles relative to the drop off between Berry and Bentley is a so drastically different, though obviously those WRs are more talented than the DBs. Yes Broyles is still an unknown, but Bentley was as much so at the time since they had yet to see him in Preseason when Berry was released.

Again, I'm not saying the Lions will be releasing or trading Young today, but if he continues having issues and Broyles proves himself capable, there is little reason to think Young would not be released. The FO will only tolerate so much, and Young has been showing he is having difficulties. They will work with him and try to help him as best they can, but if he starts down a path where his is continually making even worse decisions, they will eventually replace him.

 

[zyxt9]

You make it sound like its a secret. 24/7 news, all day sports channels etc. No one is kept in the dark.

That being said, trading him would be stupid. Might as well let Suh go as well..Geez.

Still there are the Jerry Jones in the universe who would overlook those character issues.

Getting rid of Suh is not the same at all. Suh is a starter whereas Young is technically a backup as the #3 WR. Suh was an All Pro his first year and has proven an ability to absolutely dominate while Young has shown he could have a good half year. Suh is showing he is maturing from his incidents whereas the verdict is still out on Young after the incident of the PF after the whistle vs Rams and his attitude is completely different from Suh's based on the mic'd up.

The differences are astounding so I fail to see why you would say "might as well let Suh go as well".

 

[tbone413]

Titus isnt going anywhere this year or next. He is cheap and produces. Like it or not, those guys get wayyy more rope than someone like Berry. It would take a series of serious F ups by Young to have him get traded. I think he is a bone head who needs to grow up. I think Schwartz is also very aware of this and will ride his ass hard this year, benching him whenever he does something dumb. But ultimately, he is going to play, and most likely, he will produce.

I have high expectations for Young, and I think he could really shine in this offense. I just hope he can get his head out of his ass and grow up.

 

[zyxt9]

So you don't think if Schwartz has to resort to "benching him whenever he does something dumb" and Young is on such a downward spiral mentally that he gets benched with more and more frequency that he still "isn't going anywhere".

I'm more than willing to see how the season plays out and I completely agree about expectations and Young's potential. It just remains to be seen whether or not he gets his head straight. But heck, it is still very early in the year so we'll see how he does.

 

[tbone413]

So you don't think if Schwartz has to resort to "benching him whenever he does something dumb" and Young is on such a downward spiral mentally that he gets benched with more and more frequency that he still "isn't going anywhere".

I'm more than willing to see how the season plays out and I completely agree about expectations and Young's potential. It just remains to be seen whether or not he gets his head straight. But heck, it is still very early in the year so we'll see how he does.

I think that even if he keeps screwing up on the field and gets benched, that he will still be back next year. He is too cheap/talented to not give him another chance. If he pulls a Berry and starts waving guns around in public, thats a different story.

He has what, 2 more years left on his rookie contract after this season? Id be very surpised if they get rid of him before that expires. JMO

 

[Mitchrapp]

Broyles hasn't done jack and suddenly he's ahead of Titus on the depth chart, ha.

Titus isn't going anywhere. He's not being traded, he won't be released and he won't sit behind Broyles.

 

[mhughes0021]

Broyles hasn't done jack and suddenly he's ahead of Titus on the depth chart, ha.

Titus isn't going anywhere. He's not being traded, he won't be released and he won't sit behind Broyles.

He just sat last week. Alot of people think he might sit this week too.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He just sat last week. Alot of people think he might sit this week too.

But he played, some, and Broyles didn't. Schwartz made a statement when he sat him but that doesn't mean he is not an option anymore.

 

[tonyballs]

I don't recall him ever doing much out of the slot. Broyles is supposed to be good in the slot. Trade titus!

You're right. Titus isn't a slot WR. He's an outside flanker and will be our FUTURE #2. He will not be traded and to suggest it is ridiculous.

Why do you think they drafted Broyles? To be our slot WR of the FUTURE. Young is going nowhere. C'mon, guys...

 

[tonyballs]

And to throw Young under the bus is confusing to me. Ok, he's made some dumb ass decisions on the field but his playmaking ability has trumped all. Give the fn kid a break...

 

[mhughes0021]

And to throw Young under the bus is confusing to me. Ok, he's made some dumb ass decisions on the field but his playmaking ability has trumped all. Give the fn kid a break...

Were working out morgan trent of all people and you guys freak out cause i throw out Titus as trade bait? Like i stated previously hes one of the only pieces we have thats expendable and worth a lick if we wanted to trade for a secondary piece. Whats wrong with suggesting that? Im not certain if he has more tds or personal fouls. If it meant we got a starter at cb or s id have no issues seeing him traded and a wr corps of cj nate and broyles on the field.

 

[mhughes0021]

But he played, some, and Broyles didn't. Schwartz made a statement when he sat him but that doesn't mean he is not an option anymore.

And wasnt worth a lick...

 

[Slick]

Titus is a fucking child......

 

[tonyballs]

Were working out morgan trent of all people and you guys freak out cause i throw out Titus as trade bait? Like i stated previously hes one of the only pieces we have thats expendable and worth a lick if we wanted to trade for a secondary piece. Whats wrong with suggesting that? Im not certain if he has more tds or personal fouls. If it meant we got a starter at cb or s id have no issues seeing him traded and a wr corps of cj nate and broyles on the field.

But Titus is a headcase, remember? He's an idiot, a child, a fool, a clown, whatever you want to call him. So who's trading for that? lol. Nobody apparentley. But you think we're getting a starting CB for him? Sure, bud!!

He was drafted to be a starter for the Lions at wideout one day. He should take over for Burleson. Show him the door because of a couple dumb decisions on the field? Not happening. He had a very productive rookie season and he will get better...relax.

 

[Slick]

Could the Detroit Lions Ship Titus Young to Buffalo Bills?


September 11, 2012 11:15 AM EDT

Titus Young is a good receiver with big upside but his continued problem with bad decisions during important games could hurt the Detroit Lions too much. Could a trade to the Buffalo Bills become beneficial for both sides?
Young makes dumb decision by head butting Janoris Jenkins
Detroit won their first game against the St. Louis Rams. It wasn't pretty or easy but they made it out alive. That doesn't mean they get off without any headaches. They lost another corner in Bill Bentley to a concussion as well as not having top defensive backs Louis Delmas and Chris Houston. Once against they couldn't run the ball. Matthew Stafford threw it 48 times, including three interceptions that almost cost them the game. It is not the ideal way to start the season and has many people wondering if the Lions can win enough games playing that way. The biggest issue of all though was an incident on the field when receiver Titus Young head butted Rams corner Janoris Jenkins. This came on the tail end of some constant jawing all game. Head coach Jim Schwartz said Young made a "really dumb decision." He should have walked away. Instead the hot-headed receiver, a man who had problems controlling his temper last season too, got benched for a good part of the second half. Releasing him is not an option. His talent is too good and Detroit believes he's just immature. On the other hand they might not say that if Young earns a personal foul in a playoff game. Would they think about trading him for help elsewhere on the roster?
Bills loss of David Nelson opens the door for finding NFL help
The Buffalo Bills offense looked pretty bad in their opening game against the New York Jets. Ryan Fitzpatrick tossed three interceptions. Worse yet the celebrated new "defense" gave up 48 points and failed to net a sack despite paying millions of dollars to their supposed ?lite defensive line. The real issue outside of the game is the offense though. Two key players went down with injuries in the humiliating loss. Fred Jackson will sit out 3-4 weeks with a knee injury. Even worse reliable receiver David Nelson went down for the year with a torn ligament in his right knee. If Buffalo struggled to score points before how can they expect to score without two of their best players? This means they must hope their reserves can do the job or they will go hunting in NFL free agency for help. One way they can upgrade is via trade. This is where the Young problem become interesting. At first glance nothing short of a first round draft pick might pry him away from the Lions, regardless if he's a head case. On the other hand Buffalo does have a few players Detroit would find very helpful. Safety Jairus Byrd is a free agent in 2013 and is the kind of athletic safety who could take full advantage of the strong Lions pass rush.
Titus Young is living up to his last name. His bad decisions aren't costing the Detroit Lions ball games yet but they can't take that risk forever if he continues. The Buffalo Bills badly need a receiver after losing David Nelson. If Jairus Byrd or a top draft pick go on the table a trade should at least draw interest.

 

[mhughes0021]

But Titus is a headcase, remember? He's an idiot, a child, a fool, a clown, whatever you want to call him. So who's trading for that? lol. Nobody apparentley. But you think we're getting a starting CB for him? Sure, bud!!

He was drafted to be a starter for the Lions at wideout one day. He should take over for Burleson. Show him the door because of a couple dumb decisions on the field? Not happening. He had a very productive rookie season and he will get better...relax.

im not showing him the door cause of a couple 15 yard penalties. Id be willing to trade him cause we drafted another 2nd round reciever this year and we arent even dressing him and we have 4 piece of shit DBs starting for us. Theres plenty of teams out there with WR needs and quality secondary depth. All i did was bring up the option to trade someone i veiw as expendable in order to get a need. DB has been a need on our team for 20+ years. For some reason this management continues to draft high round rbs and wrs instead of addressing that need. Again....id care less if we dealt him and got a cb or S.

 

[Slick]

im not showing him the door cause of a couple 15 yard penalties. Id be willing to trade him cause we drafted another 2nd round reciever this year and we arent even dressing him and we have 4 piece of shit DBs starting for us. Theres plenty of teams out there with WR needs and quality secondary depth. All i did was bring up the option to trade someone i veiw as expendable in order to get a need. DB has been a need on our team for 20+ years. For some reason this management continues to draft high round rbs and wrs instead of addressing that need. Again....id care less if we dealt him and got a cb or S.

I'd dump him in a heartbeat for a guy like Byrd. :tup: