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LOL - heartwarming Manti Teo girlfriend dying story was a hoax

Im talking about us, as individuals, we people in general. I do not care about the ND image whatsoever. Screw them. I would love to hear what Lou has to say, I mean spit, about this.This is so funny. I love how when espn reports something else, the person doing the reporting, is so somber. lol

This all effects me very deeply.
 
If she were in the hospital for two months following a terrible car accident there would be medical records that could be subpoenaed you'd think.
 
if the love of my life were in the hospital for 2 months, I would've found a way to see her in person at least once.
 
if the love of my life were in the hospital for 2 months, I would've found a way to see her in person at least once.

what if she sent you a text message that said "don't worry about me at all. just go out and win for me, honey"? Wouldn't you stay in South Bend and totally focus on winning?

I would. I'd also give lots of interviews about it. And I would bask in the adoration of my dooshy fanbase.
 
My ND fan employee sent me a text this morning saying, "I am running a bit late and have a nasty cold but will be in later this morning."

My reply, "How do I know that this 'nasty cold' isn't just some Hoax?!"

He replied, "Ha Ha Ha, pretty funny"
 
He's cooked. And in a week or so, Swarbrick is going to be a laughing stock for falling on the sword for this guy.
 
If she were in the hospital for two months following a terrible car accident there would be medical records that could be subpoenaed you'd think.

I can't imagine that there would be any basis for a subpoena here; I don't think Te'o was ever under oath when he made up the story, & committed no crimes. and I can't imagine any civil charges being filed for anything here. some articles mentioned donations being made in her name (?) but the amounts mentioned would be matters for small claims court, and those don't typically issue subpoenas.

the biggest crime here is a complacent, unprofessional sports media (and media in general).

the reporting here follows the standard level of "journalism" these days: a subject makes a claim that furthers interests of powerful institutions or popular mythology; the media mindlessly parrots the claims to the public, giving the claims the veneer of truth.

Too many people still have blind faith in the idea that the average hack journalist actually checks their facts and sources and verifies claims. and too many people confuse objective journalism with bias. reporters press their subjects on claims, demand evidence, challenge inconsistent statements... supporters of the subject scream "Hater!" even though that's what journalists should be doing.
 
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I completely agree, but it would seem that between some sort of public record that documents the "crash" and any lengthy hospital stay where a nurse or doctor or hospital employee could corroborate would be pretty easy to get.

This SI reporter not asking "have you seen your girlfriend" makes sense given the "circumstance" and presumption that any boyfriend would have actually at some point met said girlfriend ...

And in the end, trying to file a subpoena in order to obtain records of these alleged events should reveal that there is in fact, nothing to subpoena.


stupid noter dame sucks.

HaHaHaHaHa!!
 
I can't imagine that there would be any basis for a subpoena here; I don't think Te'o was ever under oath when he made up the story, & committed no crimes. and I can't imagine any civil charges being filed for anything here. some articles mentioned donations being made in her name (?) but the amounts mentioned would be matters for small claims court, and those don't typically issue subpoenas.

the biggest crime here is a complacent, unprofessional sports media (and media in general).

the reporting here follows the standard level of "journalism" these days: a subject makes a claim that furthers interests of powerful institutions or popular mythology; the media mindlessly parrots the claims to the public, giving the claims the veneer of truth.

Too many people still have blind faith in the idea that the average hack journalist actually checks their facts and sources and verifies claims. and too many people confuse objective journalism with bias. reporters press their subjects on claims, demand evidence, challenge inconsistent statements... supporters of the subject scream "Hater!" even though that's what journalists should be doing.

In a way I agree, but in another way, sports journalism isn't about anything that's really important-sure, it's important to sports fans to a certain degree; like Brittany Spears going commando is important to fans of that sort of thing-it's fluff.

And sports journalism that isn't even about sports-but about some athlete's girlfriend-is even fluffier fluff.

So I kind of give these media outlets a bit of a pass on not being "hard hitting" - who the fuck would make something like this up? OK, now we know, Manti Te'o would-but before this happened-who would have thought this?

The outlet that broke this story didn't do any investigation until they were tipped off.

If an athlete mentions his wife in an interview, is the reporter going to ask him to produce the marriage license to document that he's really married? Or he mentions his kids-is a reporter supposed to ask to see their birth certificates, and ask the athlete for DNA samples both of himself and his kids to prove they are truly his?

So anyways, I'm actually not outraged that the media really just reported what he said, without investigating the credibility of something so relatively unimportant, and within the context of the source being one who would be assumed to be credible regarding knowledge of the facts; i.e., a person making statements about his own personal life.
 
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Attempt at the fall guy is on now. A friend of Tuiasosopo is saying he called her crying and admitting he pulled the whole hoax on Te'o. Of course, Tuiasosopo has admitted nothing himself, but I'm sure delusional NDSucks fans will run with this. Morons and delusional NDSucks fans are the only two groups of people who can possibly think Te'o is a victim and had nothing to do with this thing.

Wait, you hear that? That's the sound of ND boosters readying their checkbooks for Tuiasosopo.
 
I completely agree, but it would seem that between some sort of public record that documents the "crash" and any lengthy hospital stay where a nurse or doctor or hospital employee could corroborate would be pretty easy to get.

This SI reporter not asking "have you seen your girlfriend" makes sense given the "circumstance" and presumption that any boyfriend would have actually at some point met said girlfriend ...

And in the end, trying to file a subpoena in order to obtain records of these alleged events should reveal that there is in fact, nothing to subpoena.


stupid noter dame sucks.

HaHaHaHaHa!!

yeah, that's true. i said that when some people were claiming the deadspin article itself was a hoax... "Well, it will be easy enough for Te'o to refute it then."

and Tinsel, I don't think reporters typically have to check every single fact, but in a case like this, where the hype is clearly benefiting the guy & his heisman campaign, should there be a degree of scrutiny? Yes.

if a guy just says "I won this for my wife and kids." No big deal. no duty to check up on that. Now if he is giving interviews about how his son is dying of cancer and he's out there winning it for him, and his team is rallying around him... well, maybe just maybe someone would want to risk being seen as a cold-hearted bastard and double check that one...
 
you'd think there are enough "haters" out there that someone from SC or BC or Purdue or one of ND's other rivals would have dug into it a bit ....some MGoBlog type guy. You know, a real investigative type - a whistleblower!
 
It really doesn't matter if he was duped, he STILL RAN WITH IT.

as far as I can tell, ND fans have even given up on this one.

the local Fox affiliate went to South Bend and interviewed a bunch of smarmy geeks they found on campus, and their response was typically "look, we're never going to know exactly what happened and who knew what, so I think we should just forget about this and move on."

there is nothing to see here...

Exactly, but I see no way he was actually duped. Everything he has said about this situation has been a lie.

I'm of this opinion. everything I've read about Te'o and the Tuiasosopo clan he was associating with says to me "charlatans"

hype makes up the majority of who they are. take that away, and they're a bunch of sub-par athletes, faith healers, mega-church preachers, American-idol contestants, reality TV stars.

together with that clown in LA, they made up a girlfriend story for Te'o out of whole cloth and Te'o used it for his own benefit. the best face-saving explanation is that he was sincerely duped and went along with it and then got caught up in the media hype (poor him!) and couldn't go back on it. but this excuse is belied by all the statements he made to the press.

it's obvious he never expected to get caught.
 
one would have thought someone in the media would have wanted the image of her tombstone as part of their video segment. you know, the touchy-feely panning of the tombstone down to the white roses left there by Te'o. what reporter wouldn't have wanted that image to bring tears to the viewing audience? stupid gullible media, always getting played by athletes, politicians, entertainers, and even the reality "stars".
 
yeah, that's true. i said that when some people were claiming the deadspin article itself was a hoax... "Well, it will be easy enough for Te'o to refute it then."

and Tinsel, I don't think reporters typically have to check every single fact, but in a case like this, where the hype is clearly benefiting the guy & his heisman campaign, should there be a degree of scrutiny? Yes.

if a guy just says "I won this for my wife and kids." No big deal. no duty to check up on that. Now if he is giving interviews about how his son is dying of cancer and he's out there winning it for him, and his team is rallying around him... well, maybe just maybe someone would want to risk being seen as a cold-hearted bastard and double check that one...

Well, after this, people might start, in cases like this...does take "Heisman hype" to a new level, seems to me...

Again, though, up to now-who the hell would have thought somebody would ever make something like this up?

And who the hell would be so stupid-especially in this day and age-to think he wouldn't be found out.
 
you'd think there are enough "haters" out there that someone from SC or BC or Purdue or one of ND's other rivals would have dug into it a bit ....some MGoBlog type guy. You know, a real investigative type - a whistleblower!

no, the MGoBlog guys aren't that smart.

besides, they have more important things to do, like cherry-picking individual plays from a game and then "analyzing" them and drawing absurdly broad conclusions about the outcome of the game and the ability of the coaches from this "analysis."

but anyways... yeah, there's no excuse for this. Te'o is not the first fraud the sporting world has encountered.

I'm sure every news bureau in the world has guidelines about verifying facts. this incident will just remind the editors to dust them off and put them back to use (I hope.)
 
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