Lynch???

[zyxt9]

There's a reason Tom Brady is spoken about as such a freak of nature. For every Tom Brady (which there's basically very few who did what he did from that position), I can name you Steve Young (1st), Montana (3rd), Manning (1st), Brees (2nd), Aikman (1st), Roethsliberger (1st), Rodgers (1st), Marino (1st), Elway (1st)...

Well yeah, that about covers it.

Not a single prospect coming out this year could hang with Stafford, let alone a single name on this list. So what's your point? We should waste a R1 pick on a guy who will not even be as good as Stafford??? YIPPEEEE!!!! After another 14+ loss season, maybe we can get another R1 QB in 2017's draft!!!!!!! QB will be the next GMs equivalent to Millen's WRs and Mayhew's TEs!!!

 

[dubbsco]

And we talk about how necessary it is to draft O-line... Do we not forget that the last few years, they have used two first round picks on them? Reiff, Tomlinson. Whether or not they were poorly scouted or poorly coaches, they were taken.

 

[kdp1980]

The problem with the "top" QBs in this year's draft is that not a single one looks NFL Ready, able to step in on Day 1 and get the job done.

Lions can draft any of the top guys and it will be viewed as a huge improvement. It doesn't matter the position, except maybe K and QB...because not a single prospect coming out right now looks to be better than Stafford. So easy to say Stafford sucks and go draft a QB with the #1 pick...but if you actually look at the QB talent coming out this year, you recognize there will be a considerable drop off in QB play regardless of which QB comes in.

Find one that has potential to actually be an NFL QB after a year or two of practices and study. And make sure the guy is a film rat!!!

Good post, I agree. Honestly, the thought of starting from scratch at qb as soon as 2016 is absolutely crazy to me. An early round qb would rank right up there with the Ebron pick last year, but much, much worse.

 

[dubbsco]

Zy, read my earlier response.

How in the holy hell can you compare a college QB to a 7 year veteran? How do you know if someone like Lynch or Goff will respond when being put onto an NFL staff?

We know exactly what Stafford is now. He's had his chance. Time to find someone else.

 

[dubbsco]

If you are okay with what Stafford is now, expect the same results. He's had his time to shine. And other than 1 great year, he's been a massive disappointment.

 

[zyxt9]

Lions are shafted again with the timing of being in Pole Position. Another down year for talent? Must mean the Lions are drafting in top 5 again!

Shit, even when draft classes have been "loaded with QB talent", who was the last "#1 QB in his class" to be a starting QB as a rookie and lead his team above .500???

 

[dubbsco]

I will be okay with another position with the overall pick, but that 2nd round pick better be a QB. I'm tired of seeing this guy behind the line.

 

[Mitchrapp]

There's a reason Tom Brady is spoken about as such a freak of nature. For every Tom Brady (which there's basically very few who did what he did from that position), I can name you Steve Young (1st), Montana (3rd), Manning (1st), Brees (2nd), Aikman (1st), Roethsliberger (1st), Rodgers (1st), Marino (1st), Elway (1st)...

Well yeah, that about covers it.

Wilson is a 3rd. Marc Bulger had 5 good seasons, though two albeit short with the Rams, 6th round. Mark Brunell,5th round.

And youlist those other guys at round one picks, you forget about Joe Theismann 4th round. Bart Starr, 17th round. Roger Staubach, 10th round pick. Though military service might have effected that.

This list isn't as mighty as the one you put up but nonetheless, you can get a guy late. And if they fail no big deal since you're not paying them much.

 

[dubbsco]

Marc Bulger? Guy was a career 84 passer who benefited from a ridiculous system to pile up yardage.

Mark Brunell's alright, career 84 passer also.

I think the odds are much better in you finding a great franchise QB early vs later. And that would apply to basically any position.

If it's not the 1st, better be the 2nd. The team has to move on from this guy.

 

[kdp1980]

And we talk about how necessary it is to draft O-line... Do we not forget that the last few years, they have used two first round picks on them? Reiff, Tomlinson. Whether or not they were poorly scouted or poorly coaches, they were taken.

They missed on those picks, so now they should swing and miss on qb instead of moving Reiff to RT, and taking another shot at a true LT? Sounds like another move that will cripple this team for another 5 years. Typical Lions terrible draft choices. And yet another draft where Lions don't draft true NEEDS.

 

[zyxt9]

If you are okay with what Stafford is now, expect the same results. He's had his time to shine. And other than 1 great year, he's been a massive disappointment.

I'm not supporting Stafford, I'm wanting him gone...but there isn't a QB in this year's draft who can replace him next year. If they draft a QB in R1, it would require Stafford to be the starting QB with the draft pick riding the pine until he can hopefully shine. Rookie QBs are losing QBs. They might eventually win, but not as a rookie.

Let him develop from the bench, that I'm good with.

OR...if thinking more long term and have a willingness from the owners to suffer through another losing season in order to get another top 5 draft pick for the 2nd straight year...well, if that is the plan then I'm good with that too. just know that if you get rid of Stafford and go with the rookie that the season is a wash and you are gunning for a second straight top 5 pick in hopes the two combined drafts will finally stockpile enough talent to return to the playoffs. I'm good with this, but I don't believe Martha is willing to sit through another season like this one based on how she has been firing everyone she can. she wants to win, and unfortunately Stafford is the only candidate available who can do that, barring a trade or hitting a home run in FA...let's check that list:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/

see anybody you like able to outperform Stafford??? this should serve as another reminder that, while Stafford continues to suck more than not, he's still better than most alternatives.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I forgot Johnny Unitas and more recent, Tony Romo - both undrafted.

You can't compare passer rating from back then to now. 84 was a better rating then now .. by far. But he had a good career, especially those first 5 seasons.

Someone posted earlier, Tom Brady in 2001 with his 86.5 was 6th best. Now, 2015 - not even top 20.

 

[zyxt9]

maybe we can pick up Cousins, Stanton, and Henne and have them battle it out.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Dub, get your ahead out of passer ratings. They don't compare from 10 years ago..

 

[dubbsco]

Fair. I still don't think Marc Bulger was that great, he was a massive system QB.

I just want to see someone in here early, and they can't wait any longer. There are a couple of potential good ones with Lynch and Goff. After that, it's a crap shoot.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Fair. I still don't think Marc Bulger was that great, he was a massive system QB.

I just want to see someone in here early, and they can't wait any longer. There are a couple of potential good ones with Lynch and Goff. After that, it's a crap shoot.

The point is if you draft someone late 4th-5th and they aren't good, no big deal .. try again after he fails.

Personally I would like a 2nd round QB. But if they don't go that way, draft one later. Does it matter if they are a failed QB or failed CB?

 

[zyxt9]

this draft reeks of being one where the best QB is a diamond buried in the rough instead of sitting on top of the pile of dogshit that is coming out like explosive diarrhea because that is what far too many college QBs do these days, move the O quickly and explosively through the college Ds but when they finally hit the field, nothing but a stinking pile of shit that everyone runs away from leaving the last one holding the bag to clean up the mess by tossing it in the trash...but if lucky, you might find that diamond the dog swallowed.

 

[dubbsco]

Yes, especially if you take a QB early, it's just a much more critical position.

If Stafford fails and ends up being traded or shipped out, are we going to be talking about Matt Stafford or Terry Fair when we look back at 1st round picks?

 

[Mitchrapp]

IMO, especially on a team with many holes 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks should be starters right away. Unless you draft QB. We barely get production from 2nd and 3rd round let alone valuable playing time. I hope we get a GM that can draft and a coach that uses them properly.

 

[kdp1980]

I'm not supporting Stafford, I'm wanting him gone...

Im fine with that, this just isn't the year. Way to many holes, elsewhere. Why draft a franchise qb with subpar oline? We made that mistake with Stafford. Getting killed in your rookie year because of a terrible oline is not a good career start for a young qb. Fill those wholes and get this team equipped to win, then draft a franchise qb. Make his transition as a starter an easier one, having to play lights out every game in order to have a chance to win is not what I want to have to see. This is what Stafford was thrown into, and it's just the wrong way.