Lynch???

[kdp1980]

But how do we know without trying. We can say these top 2-3 guys won't be as good as Matt. Based on what though? We thought Matt would be a team changer, especially 4 years ago. Who thought Wilson would be good or Brady? Who thought some no brainer's would stink?

It's a crap shoot.. Roll the dice. Who says the top 5 LT or DT will be any good either?

We need to draft an early DT and LT because the oline and dline are a glaring weakness. QB is not. We have to "hit" on those picks, it's a must. I'd be down on this team drafting a bust dt or left tackle too, but I would outright give up on this team drafting a worse qb, because I still feel qb is not as big of a concern as the dline and oline are right now. Like I said, there just aren't enough early round picks to spare on a qb this year, too many other needs. Need a big splash in FA addressing our oline for a qb to even be given a thought early in the draft.

 

[brewer229]

Olines seems to go up and down through years. Last year Green Bay had a great oline, this year not so much. Atlanta Falcons last year were horrible, this year they looked solid. I don't think either team had major changes. Last year we were middle of the road, this year really bad.

Based on PFF in 2012 and 2013 we had top 10 offensive lines, top 5 pass blocking lines. Still below average production from our QB.

We do not have a playoff winning QB on our roster. Even the best offensive line isn't going to turn him into a winner. QB is the most important position, it helps you overcome a lot of short comings.

Patriots had the second worst pass blocking line last year. Lions were ranked 11th.

QBs matter. You need great to win. You use as many picks as you need to get it right.

 

[Mitchrapp]

We need to draft an early DT and LT because the oline and dline are a glaring weakness. QB is not. We have to "hit" on those picks, it's a must. I'd be down on this team drafting a bust dt or left tackle too, but I would outright give up on this team drafting a worse qb, because I still feel qb is not as big of a concern as the dline and oline are right now. Like I said, there just aren't enough early round picks to spare on a qb this year, too many other needs. Need a big splash in FA addressing our oline for a qb to even be given a thought early in the draft.

I want to win a SB. I want to be competitive every year. You can't with Matt. Look at all the good teams throughout history? Most have a good QB. Again, for the 8th time, I never said take one with a first round pick. But you need to take one. We've taken more OL and DL help the last few years it hasn't done anything. I suspect it's because we don't have any coaches who can teach players to become better.

Just to put it in print, last 6 drafts - 3DL and 2OL. Hit on DL but 2 aren't here.. The OL, not sure. I think Reiff can be good and the other is a rook. How many more picks do we need on the lines before we realize what the big problem is?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Someone said this about Matt on TV earlier in the weak and I agree a 1000%. And I don't remember exactly what was said. "Matt can't mask the play of the OL.." Basically saying he's not good enough to overcome a bad OL. The good ones do. I don't know what it is but there are so many bad OL this season. Many of the top teams have him and top QB's. And some teams would kill for CJ and tate.

We're not winning next year so who cares if he's here?

 

[tomdalton22]

We need to draft an early DT and LT because the oline and dline are a glaring weakness. QB is not. We have to "hit" on those picks, it's a must. I'd be down on this team drafting a bust dt or left tackle too, but I would outright give up on this team drafting a worse qb, because I still feel qb is not as big of a concern as the dline and oline are right now. Like I said, there just aren't enough early round picks to spare on a qb this year, too many other needs. Need a big splash in FA addressing our oline for a qb to even be given a thought early in the draft.

There has been talk on this board about trading Stafford. I don't know what a team would give up for him but looking back at some of the trades in the past it wouldn't surprise me if you could get a 1st & 3rd?

 

[Mitchrapp]

There has been talk on this board about trading Stafford. I don't know what a team would give up for him but looking back at some of the trades in the past it wouldn't surprise me if you could get a 1st & 3rd?

Plus because he's not owed any guarantee the last 2 years he's very tradable.

 

[tomdalton22]

I would prefer they trade Matt and probably move on from CJ as well.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Most likely we'll get a GM that stays status quo.. "Matt can be an MVP." A HC, that will get more weapons for Matt. And more 2nd round picks that do little.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I guess the guarantee money is done with at years end..

"The 27-year-old is in the final year of guaranteed money on his contract with two more years of non-guaranteed money still on the deal before it expires following the 2017 season."

 

[kdp1980]

Top qbs in the upcoming draft, per Walter football. My boy is sitting at #7

http://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php

 

[brewer229]

Man these QBs are getting big.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Top qbs in the upcoming draft, per Walter football. My boy is sitting at #7

http://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php

The guy that just broke his wrists? Lol.

 

[zyxt9]

The guy that just broke his wrists? Lol.

To be fair there are quite a few on that list who have injuries. Would need to see how they do in post season games and combines to have better idea about their potentials. Not a single one looks good enough to win as a rookie...and maybe getting two in the draft (R3 and R6/7 comp picks might be used) and at least one as a UDFA would be a good way to go. See which one is a capable backup at worst.

Leaning toward DL with R1 pick. Maybe the fix that in FA, but I would rather they fix OL in FA. IMO, DL can be solid as rookies but OL need a few years, so OL in FA and DL in R1 is my preference.

 

[kdp1980]

The guy that just broke his wrists? Lol.

Ready by the senior bowl, just don't draft him in the 2nd round for God's sake,lol. This guy seriously reminds me alot of Aaron Rodgers. Mobile, quick release, good mechanics, and has good size at 6'5, 230 lbs. I like this kid, though he might shoot up draft boards, like the article says.

 

[inkfreq]

Man these QBs are getting big.

New mold for the NFL... take a former basketball player who wasn't good enough to be drafted in the NBA, and sign him.

If he can throw, he's a QB.

If he can't throw but he can catch, he's a TE.

If he can't throw and catch catch, he's a DE.

If he can't throw, can't catch, and can't rush the QB, he's a Lion.

 

[zyxt9]

New mold for the NFL... take a former basketball player who wasn't good enough to be drafted in the NBA, and sign him.

If he can throw, he's a QB.

If he can't throw but he can catch, he's a TE.

If he can't throw and catch catch, he's a DE.

If he can't throw, can't catch, and can't rush the QB, he's a Lion.

He's not a Lion yet. Gotta be injury prone before he can become a Lion!

 

[mhughes0021]

To be fair there are quite a few on that list who have injuries. Would need to see how they do in post season games and combines to have better idea about their potentials. Not a single one looks good enough to win as a rookie...and maybe getting two in the draft (R3 and R6/7 comp picks might be used) and at least one as a UDFA would be a good way to go. See which one is a capable backup at worst.

Leaning toward DL with R1 pick. Maybe the fix that in FA, but I would rather they fix OL in FA. IMO, DL can be solid as rookies but OL need a few years, so OL in FA and DL in R1 is my preference.

Stafford isn't good enough to win as a 100 mil 7 yr vet....so why should we care that a rookie isn't ready to win now? This team is no where close to being win now ready. I don't think we will be able to move stafford so i don't think we should pick a qb early. But if by some miracle we do get some picks for stafford and his contact than i think we should do it. Anyone can win 1 game and be the joke of the nfl.

 

[zyxt9]

Stafford isn't good enough to win as a 100 mil 7 yr vet....so why should we care that a rookie isn't ready to win now? This team is no where close to being win now ready. I don't think we will be able to move stafford so i don't think we should pick a qb early. But if by some miracle we do get some picks for stafford and his contact than i think we should do it. Anyone can win 1 game and be the joke of the nfl.

IF the Lions were to trade Stafford for a R1 pick, then fine...go get Lynch or Goff. However, I'd still use a R3 and R6/7 pick on QBs. Hopefully 1 of the 3 actually has a decent future. This draft just does not look to have that guy who is a lock future HoF QB so I'm not sure how much it helps.

I just really doubt Martha is willing to wait 3+ years for a shot at the Super Bowl. Stafford is only 27, so he has a couple potentially good seasons in him. He has managed to get to the playoffs twice, he just needs an incredibly good team around him...one that is able to actually beat .500+ teams on the road. That typically requires a stout D. If the new GM and coach can put together a top D that allows 10 PPG and an OL genius comes in and fixes those problems, thereby creating a run game that needs to be respected...Stafford could win.

They had the D part last year and went 11-5. Add in a strong run game that averages close to 5 ypc and therefore has to be respected, Stafford can win with that. Stay ahead of the chains, strong D able to overcome most mistakes...it isn't impossible. Eli Manning isn't that much more accurate or mobile than Stafford, it has been the solid D and run game that provided the opportunity for Manning to win SBs.

 

[brewer229]

IF the Lions were to trade Stafford for a R1 pick, then fine...go get Lynch or Goff. However, I'd still use a R3 and R6/7 pick on QBs. Hopefully 1 of the 3 actually has a decent future. This draft just does not look to have that guy who is a lock future HoF QB so I'm not sure how much it helps.

I just really doubt Martha is willing to wait 3+ years for a shot at the Super Bowl. Stafford is only 27, so he has a couple potentially good seasons in him. He has managed to get to the playoffs twice, he just needs an incredibly good team around him...one that is able to actually beat .500+ teams on the road. That typically requires a stout D. If the new GM and coach can put together a top D that allows 10 PPG and an OL genius comes in and fixes those problems, thereby creating a run game that needs to be respected...Stafford could win.

They had the D part last year and went 11-5. Add in a strong run game that averages close to 5 ypc and therefore has to be respected, Stafford can win with that. Stay ahead of the chains, strong D able to overcome most mistakes...it isn't impossible. Eli Manning isn't that much more accurate or mobile than Stafford, it has been the solid D and run game that provided the opportunity for Manning to win SBs.

This is a joke right. You are trying to prove the point that Stafford is really bad and we need to replace him at all cost..right?

 

[mhughes0021]

Oh...so all we need is a defense that only allows 10 points per game....every game. No biggie. I bet the qb from Nothern Illinois Church of Christ Methodist central can win in the NFL with that defense.....so why pay a bum 100 mil to do it?