Meyer to Stay, Geno to Go ...

[TheVictors]

Co-worker of mine with very genuine ties to OSU and a brother who worked in the Athletic Dept just told me Meyer will stay, be subject to some form of 'slap on the wrist' and that Gene Smith will be scapegoated.


He has always been pretty accurate on buckeye news/rumor, but who knows? He also seems pretty certain that the media blew everything out of proportion ...jumped to conclusions, whatever.


But I said it, brilliant move by Meyer to throw Smith under the bus and follow Bruce Nadej' advice of preventing a crisis from becoming a story all weekend. He got in front of it pretty quickly.


:shrug:

 

[biggunsbob]

Lmao.

The cheaters get to keep cheating sadly.

 

[Michchamp]

Love it.

if true, I guess the only questions remaining are:

will Meyer claim Gene Smith ordered him to keep wifebeater Zach on the staff in 2015 after he "followed proper reporting procedures"? How else will they justify keeping him? "My hands were tied."

And Will he also throw his own wife under the bus? "Shelley lied to Courtney when she said she talked to me and I talked to Zach."

I bet Meyer is "suspended" for the opening week, since they should be able to beat Oregon State by simply running dives, trap plays and sweeps and sitting in cover 2 and/or prevent on defense all day.

he'll be back for their game against TCU in Texas.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Love it.

if true, I guess the only questions remaining are:

will Meyer claim Gene Smith ordered him to keep wifebeater Zach on the staff in 2015 after he "followed proper reporting procedures"? How else will they justify keeping him? "My hands were tied."

And Will he also throw his own wife under the bus? "Shelley lied to Courtney when she said she talked to me and I talked to Zach."

I bet Meyer is "suspended" for the opening week, since they should be able to beat Oregon State by simply running dives, trap plays and sweeps and sitting in cover 2 and/or prevent on defense all day.

he'll be back for their game against TCU in Texas.

He doesn?t have to continue the pretext anymore that he didn?t know anything about it because he?s already admitted that he did.

He can just say Gene Smith told him to refer Zak and Courtney to counseling and that?s what he did.

 

[Michchamp]

He doesn?t have to continue the pretext anymore that he didn?t know anything about it because he?s already admitted that he did.

He can just say Gene Smith told him to refer Zak and Courtney to counseling and that?s what he did.

sure, but the pictures of the physical abuse and what not she was sending to shelley... he still needs to address that.

I guess once he clears that up, and Gene Smith is gone, they'll be a clean program!

 

[tinselwolverine]

sure, but the pictures of the physical abuse and what not she was sending to shelley... he still needs to address that.

I guess once he clears that up, and Gene Smith is gone, they'll be a clean program!

Maybe Shelley informed her husband about some of the couples' problems...but didn't show him or let him know about the physical abuse.

 

[thewolverines24]

Maybe Shelley informed her husband about some of the couples' problems...but didn't show him or let him know about the physical abuse.

I bet the cops told him about the nine times they had to intervene.

He didn't seem to care about that either.

 

[Michchamp]

In Kazakhstan wife beating is not fireable offense, in first place, so...

When asked about what Shelley told him, Urban should laugh and do the Borat voice "my wiiiife..."

And once they get over this, Ohio State will be a clean program by 3rd world former Soviet kleptocracy standards or Trump family standards.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I bet the cops told him about the nine times they had to intervene.

Actually...I don't think that's the sort of thing the police do.

Individual organizations can - and some do - monitor police activity to see if employees have been involved in incidents that have risen to the level of police involvement, but I don't think police themselves do outreach to organizations.

Maybe our resident law enforcement professionals - hungry and lost leader, although I haven't seen lost leader on the boards much lately; but then again, there haven't been Michigan sports happening for a few months - could be informative on this.

 

[thewolverines24]

Actually...I don't think that's the sort of thing the police do.

Individual organizations can - and some do - monitor police activity to see if employees have been involved in incidents that have risen to the level of police involvement, but I don't think police themselves do outreach to organizations.

Maybe our resident law enforcement professionals - hungry and lost leader, although I haven't seen lost leader on the boards much lately; but then again, there haven't been Michigan sports happening for a few months - could be informative on this.

Your probably right, but I guarantee coaches know anytime that a player has involvement with the police. I just assume the same goes for their coaching staff.

 

[Michchamp]

I thought Bo mentioned whenever a player got in trouble, the AAPD would let him hear about it ASAP.

at FSU there was an article about how the local PD and Athletic Dept extensively cooperated to sweep things under the rug. that's why Jameis Winston is playing football instead of sitting in prison for rape.

I am sure OSU has the same thing, and suspect that's that sketchy Hiram de Fries' guy's role, to filter these things to Urban and shield him from being held accountable for "knowing" about something, but not acting on it.

all information exchanged face to face, ensuring there are no written records, call logs, or SMS metadata that can be traced.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I thought Bo mentioned whenever a player got in trouble, the AAPD would let him hear about it ASAP.

Yup

 

[Michchamp]

Yup

although in Bo's case the purpose was to ensure the player was punished... in the case of OSU or FSU, it's the opposite.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I thought Bo mentioned whenever a player got in trouble, the AAPD would let him hear about it ASAP.

That sounds pretty believable, but it seems that it would have been a particular and unusual courtesy that the police extended to Bo, as per his request, because of his status and stature in Ann Arbor.

 

[Gulo Blue]

although in Bo's case the purpose was to ensure the player was punished... in the case of OSU or FSU, it's the opposite.

Yeah. Back when local police would want to get a coach fired for throwing a drunken fit in a bar.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yeah. Back when local police would want to get a coach fired for throwing a drunken fit in a bar.

That would have been the Southfield police. The Moeller event happened at a TGIFriday's in Southfield.

 

[Michchamp]

That sounds pretty believable, but it seems that it would have been a particular and unusual courtesy that the police extended to Bo, as per his request, because of his status and stature in Ann Arbor.

yeah, even in that case, this is not normal for a democracy where everyone is in theory equal before the law.

if the university wants to have an intern follow the police blotter, they can get he information like everyone else does.

 

[tinselwolverine]

if the university wants to have an intern follow the police blotter, they can get he information like everyone else does.

In post #169 of the Could Urban be FIRED? I said this is what I would do if I were the president of a university.

 

[lostleader]

Actually...I don't think that's the sort of thing the police do.

Individual organizations can - and some do - monitor police activity to see if employees have been involved in incidents that have risen to the level of police involvement, but I don't think police themselves do outreach to organizations.

Maybe our resident law enforcement professionals - hungry and lost leader, although I haven't seen lost leader on the boards much lately; but then again, there haven't been Michigan sports happening for a few months - could be informative on this.

I read way more than I respond. Domestic situation, it there is signs of physical violence, someone it going to jail, even if the victim doesn't want to press charges. What gets tricky is when there are no visible signs, and it's all "verbal". Had a lady refused to file charges on her husband who had choked her to the point of bursting blood vessels in her eyes, she didn't want to do anything. She was in "love" and "made him angry", tough shit, she had bruises and enough evidence, he was hooked.

However once it reached to prosecutor and the judge, things can, and do, change.

 

[Michchamp]

I read way more than I respond. Domestic situation, it there is signs of physical violence, someone it going to jail, even if the victim doesn't want to press charges. What gets tricky is when there are no visible signs, and it's all "verbal". Had a lady refused to file charges on her husband who had choked her to the point of bursting blood vessels in her eyes, she didn't want to do anything. She was in "love" and "made him angry", tough shit, she had bruises and enough evidence, he was hooked.

However once it reached to prosecutor and the judge, things can, and do, change.

I think his question was more along the lines of how do the cops in football towns communicate player/staff criminal behavior or arrests back to the head coach.

Presumably they (coach, university reps, cops) have a meeting somewhere to agree on who gets notified and when.

as far as zach smith's lack of arrests - I'm guessing Courtney Smith never called cops when there was physical evidence to protect her husband's job, which explains why he wasn't ever arrested after 2009, despite her claims of abuse & the pics she sent Urban's wife.