MLB-NPB agreement.

[tomdalton22]

And not afford his contract so bid means nothing. You can't just win the bid and trade him you have to sign him..do you think most teams are able to afford 100+ or whatever he gets? I don't.

what I meant is the bid is more affordable since it is capped. After the bid at least it is a free market for all that made the winning bid. Pretty much like the player being a free agent able to sign with any of the teams. Look at the Rangers with Darvish. Once they won the bid they didn't have to compete with any other teams. The old way the rich teams could out bid for the right to sign the player then get the player at a discount because of no competition.

 

[Mitchrapp]

what I meant is the bid is more affordable since it is capped. After the bid at least it is a free market for all that made the winning bid. Pretty much like the player being a free agent able to sign with any of the teams. Look at the Rangers with Darvish. Once they won the bid they didn't have to compete with any other teams. The old way the rich teams could out bid for the right to sign the player then get the player at a discount because of no competition.

But lets say the Rays win the bid, then what? They won't be able to sign him, from all accounts this guy is getting paid. So this guy I can guarantee will not be a Ray or an A or an Pirate.

 

[tomdalton22]

But lets say the Rays win the bid, then what? They won't be able to sign him, from all accounts this guy is getting paid. So this guy I can guarantee will not be a Ray or an A or an Pirate.

well...if he were a regular free agent with a huge pricetag he probably wouldn't be a Ray, A or Pirate either. The problem is he is a free agent but the team has to buy his free agent rights from the Japanese team.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Right. Either way this guy is not a possibility to a handful of teams which means its a bad idea. Better than what it was, sure, but its still the rich ones get richer so to speak.

 

[tomdalton22]

Right. Either way this guy is not a possibility to a handful of teams which means its a bad idea. Better than what it was, sure, but its still the rich ones get richer so to speak.

since the Tigers are "rich" I don't mind!

 

[Mitchrapp]

since the Tigers are "rich" I don't mind!

True but I kind of feel bad for teams like the Astro's. They could use a guy like this. The Rays and A's, not so much because they seem to know how to compete with a lower payroll.

 

[tomdalton22]

True but I kind of feel bad for teams like the Astro's. They could use a guy like this. The Rays and A's, not so much because they seem to know how to compete with a lower payroll.

I don't feel bad for the Astros. I heard they have the money but haven't been spending it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I don't feel bad for the Astros. I heard they have the money but haven't been spending it.

Maybe I just want them to be better because I so much hate the Rangers and Angels and want those teams to finish tied for dead last. Plus, I don't want them to get Tanaka.

 

[Thumb]

Terrible system.

Basically you;re going to have 5-6 teams make the posting limit, then he gets to go around to all the teams as they try to out bid each other on the contract, until he either, A) gets the money he wants from the team he wants, or B) gets an offer he can't refuse from any of the teams.

A free agent almost able to name his price who never played a day in the MLB.

Meanwhile guys from Latin America and the US/Canada make peanuts for the first few years they play in the us no matter how good they are.

 

[tomdalton22]

Terrible system.

Basically you;re going to have 5-6 teams make the posting limit, then he gets to go around to all the teams as they try to out bid each other on the contract, until he either, A) gets the money he wants from the team he wants, or B) gets an offer he can't refuse from any of the teams.

A free agent almost able to name his price who never played a day in the MLB.

Meanwhile guys from Latin America and the US/Canada make peanuts for the first few years they play in the us no matter how good they are.

It certainly isn't perfect but I'm not sure what else can be done about it.

 

[Rebbiv]

And not afford his contract so bid means nothing. You can't just win the bid and trade him you have to sign him..do you think most teams are able to afford 100+ or whatever he gets? I don't.

Mitch, stop confusing people with logic.

 

[tomdalton22]

It's not perfect but better than before.

 

[pr0tege]

Terrible system.

Basically you;re going to have 5-6 teams make the posting limit, then he gets to go around to all the teams as they try to out bid each other on the contract, until he either, A) gets the money he wants from the team he wants, or B) gets an offer he can't refuse from any of the teams.

A free agent almost able to name his price who never played a day in the MLB.

Meanwhile guys from Latin America and the US/Canada make peanuts for the first few years they play in the us no matter how good they are.

Have you seen some of the contracts some of them have been signing lately? Jose Abreu got 6/68M this year.

I find it hilarious that the Rakuten Golden Eagles are now contemplating not posting Masahiro Tanaka since they expected to receive 75+ million under the old posting rules. When you factor in contract and posting fee under the old system this kid could very well have been making top 5 pitcher money before ever throwing a single pitch in the majors. Now THAT would be insane.

 

[Thumb]

I'm not counting Cuba when I say Latin America, I'm talking about places MLB guys go and scout and sign players young like PR, DM, Venezuela, Mexico, etc.

Obviously guys like Abreu and Cespedes are not the type I meant.