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If you told me valentine would have 4 points and we'd have this huge free throw differential I'd think we be losing
 
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I know what integrity is. I also know that a flop on your teams behalf could be the difference in a win or loss.
I think if we had the guys that would flop they wouldn't be the kind of guys that we need. we may lose some plays because we don't flop but we will win more with tough man to man defense.
 
I know what integrity is. I also know that a flop on your teams behalf could be the difference in a win or loss.

Some things are more important than W's and L's.

Just a terrible way to look at things in general....cheat to win.....everyone else is doin it!!
 
Some things are more important than W's and L's.

Just a terrible way to look at things in general....cheat to win.....everyone else is doin it!!

I disagree, it's gimmicky and bullshit, but it's not cheating, and as much as I despite it, until flopping is officially considered illegal then I don't care if we do it when necessary. It's like playing baseball with a wooden bat when everyone else is using an aluminum one, you're at a disadvantage.
 
What a heady play by Dawson to grab that rebound and pass it away before he even came down to the floor.
 
I disagree, it's gimmicky and bullshit, but it's not cheating, and as much as I despite it, until flopping is officially considered illegal then I don't care if we do it when necessary. It's like playing baseball with a wooden bat when everyone else is using an aluminum one, you're at a disadvantage.

Again.

Integrity. It's your friend.

Using a different piece of equipment is not even close to the same thing. You must not have kids.
 
Some things are more important than W's and L's.

Just a terrible way to look at things in general....cheat to win.....everyone else is doin it!!
I just really wish they would give the call to the defender without the flop. The action would be the same by the offensive player. Conversation I wish they wouldn't give the call to the defender if he did flop. Make it a play on and give the offensive player an easy two points as punishment
 
Forbes had a pretty rough game. Missed a ton of shots and somehow managed to play most of the game and didn't get a rebound or have an assist. Not to mention his D was pathetic.
 
Forbes had a pretty rough game. Missed a ton of shots and somehow managed to play most of the game and didn't get a rebound or have an assist. Not to mention his D was pathetic.

If he would have even played alright then this would have been a massacre
 
Forbes had a pretty rough game. Missed a ton of shots and somehow managed to play most of the game and didn't get a rebound or have an assist. Not to mention his D was pathetic.

As long as dawson is having a great game like he did tonight they only need one of the three guys from Valentine, Trice, and Forbes to be hitting shots and they will be fine in most games.
 
I've been tearing Trice apart lately, but he had a good game tonight. I like him coming off the bench. The point guard spot is Tum Tums for the next 3 years.
 
Team played better than only a 13 point win, but I'll take it. PLaying our best ball right now, time to pay Illinois back.
 
He's a nightmare for them, he was dominant in the big ten tourney last year. No answer

He was the Dawsonator tonight, sometimes hes weak then sometimes hes the Dawsonator. Guess who showed up tonight?//// :tup:
 
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