Msu @ nw

[Sbee]

reading this thread you'd think we lost 31-10

 

[gotime909]

reading this thread you'd think we lost 31-10

Most of the posts were from the first half and warranted

 

[Spartanmack]

Lewerke had a good but not great game. He's a top 3 qb i. the B1G and easily the best option we have. The receiving corps is good and some of them have potential to be really good. Its clear Collins is the best running back so they need to stick with him. Heyward is good enough to spell him and be a decoy or catch a pass out of the backfield here and there but this musical chairs at TB crap has to end. I could be wrong but it seemed like we sat collins for the whole 2nd qtr. Thats just dumb at this point in the season - i think rotating them last year may have hurt heyward but whatever the reason, the separation bw the two has been established . The o-line is mediocre when they are at their best- this has been our problem for years and its clear Bollman hasnt done much to change that.

The defensive front is solid, linebackers too. The corners however are a problem. I thiught they were victims of a couple bad calls y'day but they got victimized by Mildcat receivers way more.

If this was the only game you saw this year you probably wouldn't be calling for major coaching changes but its still the biggest problem for the offense. My fear is we will win all the games we're supposed to, possibly beat a bad uofm but get throttled by any good teams we play and dantonio won't feel any pressure to make changes to the staff.

 

[gotime909]

Lewerke had a poor first half and a good second half. Just not consistent with his accuracy enough for my liking.

Heyward is a trash rb. He should be moved to wr. Let the kids get all the carries

The corners I agree with.

 

[tomdalton22]

Lewerke had a good but not great game. He's a top 3 qb i. the B1G

I know the BIG doesn't have a lot of high end QBs, but wasn't Lewerke terrible last year? I know this is a new year but the few games I have seen him play he was bad. Maybe I just catch him at his worst.

 

[Spartanmack]

I know the BIG doesn't have a lot of high end QBs, but wasn't Lewerke terrible last year? I know this is a new year but the few games I have seen him play he was bad. Maybe I just catch him at his worst.

the few games youve seen this year or last year? he was awful last year playing with an injured throwing shoulder, garbage offensive line, injuries to all his receivers and horrendous coaching. He's played pretty well this year despite still having bad coaching and a bad line in front of him. So far hes completed 62% for 1,025 yds, 7 TDs and 1 int in 4 games. if you've watched him in a few games this year and think he was bad, you're setting a pretty high bar for what constitutes a good QB.

 

[tomdalton22]

the few games youve seen this year or last year? he was awful last year playing with an injured throwing shoulder, garbage offensive line, injuries to all his receivers and horrendous coaching. He's played pretty well this year despite still having bad coaching and a bad line in front of him. So far hes completed 62% for 1,025 yds, 7 TDs and 1 int in 4 games. if you've watched him in a few games this year and think he was bad, you're setting a pretty high bar for what constitutes a good QB.

The games were last year. I haven't seen any MSU games this year. I didn't realize he was hurt last year.

 

[byco42]

Impressive road win. What are those, by the way? What's it like?

 

[Spartanmack]

Impressive road win. What are those, by the way? What's it like?

They're alright but the sting of a bad home loss lingers way longer and has a greater impact than the pleasure of a win on the road.

 

[byco42]

They're alright but the sting of a bad home loss lingers way longer and has a greater impact than the pleasure of a win on the road.

Especially one that ended with a blatant violation that should not have been missed.

 

[Spartanmack]

Especially one that ended with a blatant violation that should not have been missed.

yeah, but that was just salt on the salt on the salt on the salt in the wounds. it definitely could have made a difference but if a few of the dozens of things our players and coaches actually had control over went the right way (drive killing penalties, play calling, drops, missed FGs, missed receivers, etc) we could have been taking a knee with a 3 score lead by then.


Edit: unless we can pull off a miracle in Columbus 2 Saturdays from now - that kind of road win would be a salve that would heal many wounds.

 

[byco42]

yeah, but that was just salt on the salt on the salt on the salt in the wounds. it definitely could have made a difference but if a few of the dozens of things our players and coaches actually had control over went the right way (drive killing penalties, play calling, drops, missed FGs, missed receivers, etc) we could have been taking a knee with a 3 score lead by then.

Accurate about most close losses. Certainly applies to TWTS and the 4th-and-first-down losses M had in '15 and '16 respectively.

Edit: unless we can pull off a miracle in Columbus 2 Saturdays from now - that kind of road win would be a salve that would heal many wounds.

Prediction: MSU 18, OSU 16.

 

[Spartanmack]

Accurate about most close losses. Certainly applies to TWTS and the 4th-and-first-down losses M had in '15 and '16 respectively.

TWTS? In the case of close losses to inferior opponents, yeah but I wouldn't say that about a lot of losses where we played our butts off but came up short against better teams. And we have a ton of close losses that I would blame almost exclusively on the prevent defense.

Prediction: MSU 18, OSU 16.

The optimism is appreciated and I'd love to see it - it will be my almost 10yr old's first Spartan football game and my first trip to the shoe. But after watching NW expose our corners, particularly downfield, I'm afraid OSU could score 16 in each of the first 3 quarters before taking their foot off the gas in the 4th.

 

[SpartyNash]

especially one that ended with your coach defending himself for a bullshit offense for costing you the game with a 7 point showing

fify

 

[byco42]

TWTS? In the case of close losses to inferior opponents, yeah but I wouldn't say that about a lot of losses where we played our butts off but came up short against better teams. And we have a ton of close losses that I would blame almost exclusively on the prevent defense.

TWTS = Trouble With The Snap.

The optimism is appreciated and I'd love to see it - it will be my almost 10yr old's first Spartan football game and my first trip to the shoe. But after watching NW expose our corners, particularly downfield, I'm afraid OSU could score 16 in each of the first 3 quarters before taking their foot off the gas in the 4th.

Your first trip to the Zoo? Don't feed the animals.

 

[Spartanmack]

TWTS = Trouble With The Snap.



Your first trip to the Zoo? Don't feed the animals.

Got it - clearly that was a heartbreaker for your side but I don' think either team can claim they should have been up by 3 scores at that point. As I recall, it was kinda ugly on both sides mixed in with some pretty good defense by both teams.

 

[byco42]

Got it - clearly that was a heartbreaker for your side but I don' think either team can claim they should have been up by 3 scores at that point. As I recall, it was kinda ugly on both sides mixed in with some pretty good defense by both teams.

It was so surreal to me that I could only lower my head and chuckle, especially because I had just admonished a group of younger M fans for celebrating before the clock hit 0:00. They scoffed at me for being "cynical" ... as M had the ball with 1:40 something to play.

 

[Spartanmack]

It was so surreal to me that I could only lower my head and chuckle, especially because I had just admonished a group of younger M fans for celebrating before the clock hit 0:00. They scoffed at me for being "cynical" ... as M had the ball with 1:40 something to play.

after the muff, I jumped off the couch and was sidestepping across the family room, high stepping over my kids like I was a coach running down the sideline yelling at JWJ to "go, go, go, go." After that I was high fiving my wife and kids who were probably reacting more to me than the actual play - not sure they got the significance/impact of that play at almost 6 and 4 yrs old.

 

[SpartyNash]

after the muff, I jumped off the couch and was sidestepping across the family room, high stepping over my kids like I was a coach running down the sideline yelling at JWJ to "go, go, go, go." After that I was high fiving my wife and kids who were probably reacting more to me than the actual play - not sure they got the significance/impact of that play at almost 6 and 4 yrs old.

I watched at some friends (who were still in college) house in EL. It seems like a blur now. Something uncontrollably possessed me to run shoeless out of the house screaming and their neighbors did the same. I hugged about 10 random people jumping around. A friend recorded us all screaming and going wild on his Snapchat account but never saved the damn video to his phone so it?s gone forever.

On a side note my sister watched at a friend of a friend of a friends in AA and they got kicked out of the house almost instantly after the play. Short of someone destroying my house/belongings I?m not kicking anyone out win or lose.