By:
Advanced search…

Welcome to Detroit Sports Forum!

By joining our community, you'll be able to connect with fellow fans that live and breathe Detroit sports just like you!

Get Started
  • If you are no longer able to access your account since our recent switch from vBulletin to XenForo, you may need to reset your password via email. If you no longer have access to the email attached to your account, please fill out our contact form and we will assist you ASAP. Thanks for your continued support of DSF.

MSU pres. Resigns

Article in the Freep today about how MSU is going to pay the lawsuits/settlements from this. (link)

Big numbers at stake here. a lot more than PSU:

"One clear difference between the two schools' lawsuits, however, is the number of plaintiffs," Roy Eappen, a senior analyst for Wells Fargo Securities wrote in his first quarter higher-education review. "Penn State has at least 35 accusers and the university has paid out $109 million."

MSU is facing roughly 300 victims, according to figures in court records. At $3 million a person, that's $900 million.​

Given MSU's conduct so far, I'm guessing they're going to fight - and fight nasty - to settle each suit for a lot less than $3MM each. It's also possible plaintiffs recoup different amounts.

Engler wants tuition to pay the costs, but apparently this would require some legislative action. And the legislature wants State to pay it, presumably out of their endowment.
 
They should save their first million by cutting off Simon from the $750k this year and $500k+ next year or whatever it was.
 
Gulo Blue said:
They should save their first million by cutting off Simon from the $750k this year and $500k+ next year or whatever it was.
Click to expand...

What are you, a communist? We don't hold rich people accountable for their actions or omissions in this country, regardless of whether they are intentional or negligent.

think of the consequences!
 
https://theathletic.com/341996/2018...ith-michigan-state-and-the-larry-nassar-case/

This article focuses on the similarities/differences of the case the NCAA would be making against MSU and the one they made against Penn State. There's no specific rule violation, but with Penn State, they claimed the university failed to protect student-athlete well-being, including health and safety. Seeing how the NCAA had to roll back penalties against Penn State, MSU's argument that there were no NCAA violations might prevail. If the NCAA has a stronger case this time, it's likely because in the Penn State case, the victims weren't student-atheletes, but in the MSU case some are.

Here's another article from The Athletic:

https://theathletic.com/348033/2018...-board-of-trustees-face-a-chasm-and-a-choice/

I don't know the details well enough to weigh in on this guy other than this 1 article, but MSU Trustee Brian Mosallam looks to be handling this the right way, and is butting heads with Ferguson.
 
the Freep hosted a Breakfast & Q&A Session with Engler that appears to have been more or less a paid ad for Engler to talk about how great MSU is. i saw ads for it on their site a week or so ago, but no write up in the Freep.

ESPN had a summary. Ignoring the self-serving parts about how great MSU, Dantonio, and Izzo are, and how this will never happen again simply because Engler says so, it appears when it comes down to it, they're still only really sorry for getting caught, not for actually being horrible human beings that measure their worth solely by the amount of money they bring in relative to their predecessors:
In response to the woman who says she was discouraged from reporting her claim of being raped by three basketball players, Michigan State attacked her credibility by publishing some of her counseling records. Engler later issued a statement saying that the school regretted its choice to share that information.

The same day he expressed those regrets, a survivor of Nassar's abuse accused him during a university board meeting of bullying her and asking her -- without her attorney present -- how much money it would take to settle her lawsuit against the school. Engler said he did meet with the woman and her mother, but he had a different recollection of what was discussed.

When asked directly on Thursday about whether he should have taken that meeting, Engler said it likely would've been better to not have met with them.
​

Lock your money in a safe, and stick your head in the sand...

this part is... ouch:

In January, shortly before Engler took over as interim president, Outside The Lines reported that it had found "a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression" of sexual assault allegations made against student-athletes at Michigan State. Engler later called that report a "sensationalized package" and inaccurate. A Michigan State spokesman declined to provide any specific examples of inaccuracies in the report when asked multiple times by ESPN reporters.

Engler has denied ESPN's interview request and declined to answer any questions from ESPN at Thursday's breakfast event.​

I won't talk to you. You're mean.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
michchamp said:
the Freep hosted a Breakfast & Q&A Session with Engler that appears to have been more or less a paid ad for Engler to talk about how great MSU is. i saw ads for it on their site a week or so ago, but no write up in the Freep.

ESPN had a summary. Ignoring the self-serving parts about how great MSU, Dantonio, and Izzo are, and how this will never happen again simply because Engler says so, it appears when it comes down to it, they're still only really sorry for getting caught, not for actually being horrible human beings that measure their worth solely by the amount of money they bring in relative to their predecessors:
In response to the woman who says she was discouraged from reporting her claim of being raped by three basketball players, Michigan State attacked her credibility by publishing some of her counseling records. Engler later issued a statement saying that the school regretted its choice to share that information.

The same day he expressed those regrets, a survivor of Nassar's abuse accused him during a university board meeting of bullying her and asking her -- without her attorney present -- how much money it would take to settle her lawsuit against the school. Engler said he did meet with the woman and her mother, but he had a different recollection of what was discussed.

When asked directly on Thursday about whether he should have taken that meeting, Engler said it likely would've been better to not have met with them.
​
Lock your money in a safe, and stick your head in the sand...

this part is... ouch:

In January, shortly before Engler took over as interim president, Outside The Lines reported that it had found "a pattern of widespread denial, inaction and information suppression" of sexual assault allegations made against student-athletes at Michigan State. Engler later called that report a "sensationalized package" and inaccurate. A Michigan State spokesman declined to provide any specific examples of inaccuracies in the report when asked multiple times by ESPN reporters.

Engler has denied ESPN's interview request and declined to answer any questions from ESPN at Thursday's breakfast event.​
I won't talk to you. You're mean.
Click to expand...


one small step away from crying "Fake News!"
 
TheVictors said:
one small step away from crying "Fake News!"
Click to expand...

that's all he's doing.

"Don't focus on the negatives and ignore all the great things we've done! Like... uh for example... beating Michigan in football last year.... yeah! also: I will state for the record that we have no comment regarding ANY other questions you might have for me. Also, if any of those questions were not going to be about how great our football and basketball programs have done under Dantonio or Izzo... you just hate us."
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

About Us

Founded in 2011, Detroit Sports Forum is a community of fanatics dedicated to teams like the Lions, Tigers, Pistons, Red Wings, Wolverines, and more. We live and breathe Detroit sports!

Stay Connected

Forum statistics

Threads
35,013
Messages
1,131,079
Members
981
Latest member
harmony

Affiliates

    Discussion Hub
Back
Top