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My Remaining Wish List

I have no idea what he's asking......but Cecil Shorts would be a good addition, IMO.

#1 experience in case of an injury.
Good speed
Productive even in J'ville
Cheap price tag
Likely to take a short term deal (1 or 2 years)
Just turned 27

Not saying he is the answer to everything that ails this offense.....but would give the Lions a lot of flexibility in 3 WR sets.....which they run a lot of.

Shorts signed with the Texans.
 
Almost no chance AP gets traded. He's hitting 30 in just a few days, missed all of last season, and is owed $45MM over the next three years.

No team is taking that contract on.

I'm sure the Lions can get him. They just need to restructure and play around a little. If there's one thing I've learned from LKP, the available cap space is, in actuality, limitless as long as you are willing to do whatever it takes to get a guy signed.
 
I'm sure the Lions can get him. They just need to restructure and play around a little. If there's one thing I've learned from LKP, the available cap space is, in actuality, limitless as long as you are willing to do whatever it takes to get a guy signed.

Hate to say it, but LKP is right on that one. As long as you are willing to pay the piper down the road, you can land any player you want now.

The cap rules have a lot of loopholes in them, but sooner or later, the bill comes due, and then it hurts.
 
Hate to say it, but LKP is right on that one. As long as you are willing to pay the piper down the road, you can land any player you want now.

The cap rules have a lot of loopholes in them, but sooner or later, the bill comes due, and then it hurts.

I was being serious, not sarcastic (in case you or others thought that was the tone in that post, which is understandable...tone is often easily misinterpreted online).

He's been right about it every year. Every time I think the Lions have screwed up the cap in an unrecoverable way, they manage to still field a team. Some years are better than others. I don't agree with paying 3-4 players 40-50% of the entire cap as I would rather have the money spread around to more positions, thereby fielding a better team IMO; however, I can no longer argue against the fact it is a legit way of getting things to work out. Sooner or later the bill comes due, yes; but if you are willing to gut the team every X years so that you might do well the other years, it is a viable way of doing business. Not the way I would do it if I was in charge, but I'm not. And since they have played that game for so long now, nothing should surprise me about their cap shell game any longer.

If they did something to land AP, I would be neither surprised nor disappointed. I expect they will gamble with a RB in the draft instead to save money and not be forced into a bigger cap shell game than they are currently committed to. But if they could take a run at AP, can't say I would hate the attempt.
 
Sure you can fit guys in, under the cap. But by doing so you get into a situation where their cap numbers are so high, you can't franchise him, trade him and when you let them go you're still paying them..

It's not a good plan. Someone could have 10 beers every night but it's not wise.
 
Sure you can fit guys in, under the cap. But by doing so you get into a situation where their cap numbers are so high, you can't franchise him, trade him and when you let them go you're still paying them..

It's not a good plan. Someone could have 10 beers every night but it's not wise.

It is a good plan with a rising cap and cheap rookies. It should have worked for Suh too, but Suh decided he wanted 19 per. We could have paid 17 per and could have paid 19 per. We chose not too. That is a whole other decision not overpaying.
 
you guys can stop with your wish lists....we have less than 1.5 mil in space. unless you want to see another Stafford extension.
 
you guys can stop with your wish lists....we have less than 1.5 mil in space. unless you want to see another Stafford extension.

We have 5.5 in space. 1.2 extra space needed for draft (due to top 51 rule), 1.8 for top 53/PS. That leaves 2.5 million plenty of room.

Partial Calvin restruture possible too. 5 million base to signing bonus. Lions get 4 million more in space now. Puts us at 6.5 million. Only adds 1 million each year 2016-2019 to Calvin's cap numbers. Wouldn't be that big a deal to get 4 million in space now to make that move.

Blalock, Mathis and have some carryover. Easily.
 
Given Calvin is probably injury prone at this point, and not getting any younger, I am not sure it's fiscally responsible to increase his guarantees (there is mounting evidence that the team will be eating significant dead money before his deal ends). Getting Blalock and Mathis would be nice, but both are still stopgaps at best, being on the wrong side of 30. The team knows it needs to draft new blood anyway. Given how Sims played last year, even a rookie is probably an improvement to the line. DB might take a hit, but better health and continued improvement from Slay could make up for it.
 
The main reason we couldn't keep a young stud in Suh, for at least one more year (and losing 9m), was because of restructures. Stop with the restructuring of highly paid players..
 
The main reason we couldn't keep a young stud in Suh, for at least one more year (and losing 9m), was because of restructures. Stop with the restructuring of highly paid players..

Restructuring was probably the only way they could add as many players as they did in the past. The problem is that they're giving QB money to both a QB and a WR. Now I love CJ, he was a superstar when they re-signed him, but it was their choice to give him that contract, they knew the risks and they have to live with it, restructuring to squeeze out what little money they can each season.

I'd probably be fine with CJs contract if he had the same superstar impact every game, but that isn't the case... And unfortunately for CJ, most of that has not been his fault.

Just for reference, with the Bowe and Andre Johnson moves, CJs 2015 cap hit is 60% higher than the next highest WR cap value (D. Thomas), and CJs average salary is 26% higher than the next highest (D. Thomas). That's just insane.
 
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Restructuring was probably the only way they could add as many players as they did in the past. The problem is that they're giving QB money to both a QB and a WR. Now I love CJ, he was a superstar when they re-signed him, but it was their choice to give him that contract, they knew the risks and they have to live with it, restructuring to squeeze out what little money they can each season.

I'd probably be fine with CJs contract if he had the same superstar impact every game, but that isn't the case... And unfortunately for CJ, most of that has not been his fault.

Just for reference, with the Bowe and Andre Johnson moves, CJs 2015 cap hit is 60% higher than the next highest WR cap value (D. Thomas), and CJs average salary is 26% higher than the next highest (D. Thomas). That's just insane.

I agree with that but we didn't end up with a powerhouse team from all the restructure. And yes, superstars are good to have but not by 26%. I love CJ too but you don't need a CJ to win.
 
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