New predictions

[imthetruth]

With a quarter of the season down and with a bye week coming up what are some of y'alls revised predictions?

Are we as bad as we played so far? No. Are we going to real off a bunch of wins in a row? Doubt it. With that being said I predict we go 8-8 which is 7-5 through the remaining 12 games. I just hope one of those wins is against Seattle.

 

[tsmith7559]

the good news is were probably 1 game behind who will win the division(Chi/GB) and we havent played either. No way Minny wins this division.

with that said, we will have to win 1 or 2 games I didnt think we would beginning the season, ie, @Philly and GB (home).

 

[tomdalton22]

I thought they would go 9-7 but I figured that they would start 3-1. There is a good possibility that they will lose their next 3 games. I really don't see 8 wins. I say they go 6-10

 

[LKP]

Best realistic case from 1-3 assuming they find more offense and special teams:
We need to win one of the next 2 games to go to 2-4. Preferably at Chicago(division)
Must win the next 3 Seattle, at Jax, at Minnesota(which is iffy after Sunday) 5-4
Home against Green Bay is must win and very tough (6-4)
loss vs Houston barring injuries to them (6-5)
beat Indy (7-5)
loss at GB (7-6)
Boils down to the last 3 very tough games at Arizona, Atlanta and Chicago
3-0 is very very unlikely for 10-6, either 2-1 or 1-2 so 8-8 or 9-7 finish.

But really if they continue to play like they are now 6-10 like the 2010 Lions that couldn't pull games out early in the season.

 

[tomdalton22]

Best realistic case from 1-3 assuming they find more offense and special teams:
We need to win one of the next 2 games to go to 2-4. Preferably at Chicago(division)
Must win the next 3 Seattle, at Jax, at Minnesota(which is iffy after Sunday) 5-4
Home against Green Bay is must win and very tough (6-4)
loss vs Houston barring injuries to them (6-5)
beat Indy (7-5)
loss at GB (7-6)
Boils down to the last 3 very tough games at Arizona, Atlanta and Chicago
3-0 is very very unlikely for 10-6, either 2-1 or 1-2 so 8-8 or 9-7 finish.

But really if they continue to play like they are now 6-10 like the 2010 Lions that couldn't pull games out.

I don't see them beating Philly or the Bears on the road.

 

[LKP]

I don't see them beating Philly or the Bears on the road.

Bears are the best shot with their Oline and struggling offense. Pooch kickoff or kick punt out of bounds all day though. It's up to the Lions offense to wake up.

 

[tigermud]

5-11

They didn't do enough to improve the weaknesses from last year and our coordinators are to slow to adjust.

Remember all those years they used to make or just barley miss the playoffs then go 5-11 the following year?

Those days have returned. At least we aren't the laughing stock of the NFL anymore so it could be worse but... it's just never going to happen is it

 

[zyxt9]

I stand firm that this team is far better than they have played so far. The D has been doing an average to slightly better than average job...better than last year IMO as the O has continually failed to help them. The PA is not as bad as the 114 indicates due to the number of points scored when ST or O were on the field. What is it now, 28 for ST and 14 off Pick 6 and 7 off the strip of Pettigrew returned for a TD, so total of 49 (or is it more)??? So D has given up 65 over 4 games for rough average of 16 per game. And how many times did O turn it over inside own 40 giving the other team possession with high probability of scoring at least a FG? D is playing at level they need to for the team to win games. The upside is the D can play even better, especially if they can get more rest and emotional uplifts by O keeping the ball longer and scoring more points.

Obviously ST has killed them the last 2 weeks while the O can't seem to get their shit together. The O needs to get on track and the bye is coming at an ideal time as it gives them time to reset and get their minds straight. Still, the O has 100 PF for 25 per game...this while absolutely sucking.

The bye is coming at an ideal time (normally I would not think that about getting an early bye week). I think they will figure things out and only lose 2 more, going 11-5 and proving they are actually not the S-O-L.

 

[LKP]

I stand firm that this team is far better than they have played so far. The D has been doing an average to slightly better than average job...better than last year IMO as the O has continually failed to help them. The PA is not as bad as the 114 indicates due to the number of points scored when ST or O were on the field. What is it now, 28 for ST and 14 off Pick 6 and 7 off the strip of Pettigrew returned for a TD, so total of 49 (or is it more)??? So D has given up 65 over 4 games for rough average of 16 per game. And how many times did O turn it over inside own 40 giving the other team possession with high probability of scoring at least a FG? D is playing at level they need to for the team to win games. The upside is the D can play even better, especially if they can get more rest and emotional uplifts by O keeping the ball longer and scoring more points.

Obviously ST has killed them the last 2 weeks while the O can't seem to get their shit together. The O needs to get on track and the bye is coming at an ideal time as it gives them time to reset and get their minds straight. Still, the O has 100 PF for 25 per game...this while absolutely sucking.

The bye is coming at an ideal time (normally I would not think that about getting an early bye week). I think they will figure things out and only lose 2 more, going 11-5 and proving they are actually not the S-O-L.

Agreed on the offense with 25 PPG but really it's 2 good games and 2 poor games against good defenses in 49ers and revamped Vikings D. But at Philly, Chicago twice, Houston, Green Bay twice, at Minnesota, even at Arizona now are going to be tough defenses to face. Lions need to work out their redzone problems. Dink and dunk without finsihing and scoring doesn't work.

Defense it's been 72 points(28 special, one pick 6 and Pettigrew fumble) given up so 18 PPG which isn't too bad. But 27 vs San Fran and 23 allowed vs Titans(plus 2 missed FGs) is pretty bad as they have average to poor offenses. 16 vs Rams and 6 vs Vikings with a missed FG at home is good though. So hit or miss there too. One side of the ball falters each of the past 3 games plus special teams the last two.

And special teams has been atrocious other than Hanson.

Alot to work on or we'll be the 2010 Lions playing games close but still losing double digit games. Four of the next 5 games are on the road for Detroit too.

 

[zyxt9]

thanks for correction LKP...and for backing me up to some extent. i'm just trying to help get fanbase to rethink the doom and gloom, even if only a little.

 

[imthetruth]

The Lions will have to win 9 outta the remaining 12 to have a chance at Play-Offs.
AKA not gonna happen

 

[tomdalton22]

thanks for correction LKP...and for backing me up to some extent. i'm just trying to help get fanbase to rethink the doom and gloom, even if only a little.

You are kind of right about the defense. So far they have been in the middle of the pack as far as yards and points given up.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Take out ST and we're 3-1. I can't imagine they will continue to suck this bad..

 

[zyxt9]

to further my point about the D, they are roughly 12th in Total Yards Against, 11th in Pass YA and 16th in Rush YA. Take away the PA scored when ST or O were on field and they are tied for 7th (granted that is supposing the D gets a stop instead of giving up points on the hypothetical drives that would have happened in place of those actual TDs).

so, my point being the D is actually playing average to above average has some merit despite the appearance that they suck. there are very few elite Ds this year, the problems have been far more O and ST related. still taking too many penalties too, but they are tied for 10th in terms of least penalized teams so they have improved there, though they are 20th in least penalized yards so when they get a penalty it is usually of the very painful variety still as average penalty is over 10yds.

 

[tomdalton22]

Take out ST and we're 3-1. I can't imagine they will continue to suck this bad..

It has been brutal. Unfortunately, ST is a part of the game. I think it goes to show you that the Lions roster is not talented from top to bottom since special teams players consist of mostly younger players and back ups.

 

[zyxt9]

last year started 5-0, then they had stretch of 1-3. granted this is a new year, different schedule, etc. just reminding that even last year they were a streaky team. when they get hot, they can beat anyone and i think if there is one thing everyone here can agree on it is that they have not gotten hot yet this year. i guess it depends on whether or not one believes it is only a matter of time or it will never happen. i think it is only a matter of time...just hoping sooner than later.

 

[tomdalton22]

last year started 5-0, then they had stretch of 1-3. granted this is a new year, different schedule, etc. just reminding that even last year they were a streaky team. when they get hot, they can beat anyone and i think if there is one thing everyone here can agree on it is that they have not gotten hot yet this year. i guess it depends on whether or not one believes it is only a matter of time or it will never happen. i think it is only a matter of time...just hoping sooner than later.

This is true....but the problem is two of the three losses were penciled in as wins. The schedule gets harder.

 

[Mitchrapp]

This is true....but the problem is two of the three losses were penciled in as wins. The schedule gets harder.

But also 2 of the 3 loses were because of record setting ST futility.

 

[LKP]

This is true....but the problem is two of the three losses were penciled in as wins. The schedule gets harder.

If Detroit somehow goes 10-6 they will have defnititely earned it. 4 of the next 5 on the road, then GB twice, Houston(4-0), Atlanta(4-0), at Arizona(4-0) and Chicago in the last 7.

Winning at Philly or at Chicago is a must then the next 3 or it's over other than spoiler.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Could be worst, Saints.