"not always" pathetic windbag gives child climate skeptic an ipad

[turok]

this presumes God is right-handed:

Presumes that God uses the English language to write as well, instead of Old Aramaic, good thing that God isn't printing in Hindi, Mandarin, Arabic, Urdu, Cantonese, Japanese, or something else.

 

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Presumes that God uses the English language to write as well, instead of Old Aramaic, good thing that God isn't printing in Hindi, Mandarin, Arabic, Urdu, Cantonese, Japanese, or something else.

I have it on good authority that he only writes on stone tablets with lightning.

Cecil B. DeMille and Charlton Heston said so.

 

[tinselwolverine]

That's an assumption.

I was thinking that but I realized it might not necessarily be; xyxt might be aware of reports of soldiers who claimed to be aethiests but prayed when battle broke out, either because they survived and recalled the event themselves, or or their fellow soldiers overheard them.

 

[KAWDUP]

And just to add, because I didn't speak on this yet, I also think prayer has some positive outcome. But only the feeling the individual gets from doing it, purely psychological.

If it makes people happy, and feel better about themselves/the world...pray away. But the idea of a part-time deity who answers some prayers, and not others in no specific way or order.....yeah......sorry, but no.

How about using my definition. I never said anything about a part time diety. . . .but a diety's will is definitely involved.

 

[redandguilty]

I wasn't asking you, since I don't really value your opinion on the topic. but regardless, whether climate change is SOLELY the result of man's activities isn't the issue. And it could be proven within some measure of certainty. it's called SCIENCE.



10-90 or 25-80... that's a pretty big gap.

but yeah, I'm more or less convinced. even if I was on the fence (as I'm not a scientist), the fact that the oil & coal industries and their talking heads in the media have thrown so much money at disproving it and confusing the issues would push me over to one side.

I buy into the idea that the increase in solar output probably accounts for 10%-30% of it, so that puts a cap on how much you can blame people for...but the rest of my oppinion is really just buying into the numbers of climate scientists that agree. Those climate models are complicated. There's no way I'm going to put the time in to have a real sense of the validity of those models on my own. ...and I do think there's potential for the whole field to be suffering from groupthink like a more right wing person would assume. But I think that groupthink leads to exaggeration, not flat out incorrect science. Self-selection bias...that sort of thing. Science is political and reviewers are going to be more critical of people that go against the gain/more forgiving of people that stay in line.

I also don't think the whole argument is about man's role in change. If the house is on fire, I'm not going to stay in the house just 'cause I didn't light it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Presumes that God uses the English language to write as well, instead of Old Aramaic, good thing that God isn't printing in Hindi, Mandarin, Arabic, Urdu, Cantonese, Japanese, or something else.

This is absurd, just as the cartoon is.

God never wrote any such list any language; there were just four easy steps, 1) make the earth, animals and trees etc, 2) make people 3) torment people 4) destroy the world.

God does not have to write down a list of directions to remember four simple steps; I didn't even have to write them down.

 

[Michchamp]

This is absurd, just as the cartoon is.

God never wrote any such list any language; there were just four easy steps, 1) make the earth, animals and trees etc, 2) make people 3) torment people 4) destroy the world.

God does not have to write down a list of directions to remember four simple steps; I didn't even have to write them down.

so does he have to write down other things with more bits of information? like who's is who on earth, and whether they've been naughty or nice?

 

[Michchamp]

I have it on good authority that he only writes on stone tablets with lightning.

Cecil B. DeMille and Charlton Heston said so.

God also made the DAMN DIRTY APES.

 

[tinselwolverine]

so does he have to write down other things with more bits of information? like who's is who on earth, and whether they've been naughty or nice?

I would expect that God subscribes to the updated "Who's Who? on Earth" directory on an annual basis.

The old fat communist has that naughty or nice list you're talking about.

 

[turok]

This is absurd, just as the cartoon is.

God never wrote any such list any language; there were just four easy steps, 1) make the earth, animals and trees etc, 2) make people 3) torment people 4) destroy the world.

God does not have to write down a list of directions to remember four simple steps; I didn't even have to write them down.

Of course not, it was just for demonstration's sake, similar to a ticked-off God who apparently decided to use lightning-etched rock then chiseled into stone tablets, for the proper "shock and awe" effect on Moses to create the "10 Commandments".

But obviously the piously straight and narrow Moses really needed no convincing, as it was his people that were partying like it was 1999 below them on Mt. Sinai, after being freed from the shackles of slavery imposed on them for 4 centuries by the Pharaohs.

 

[zyxt9]

I was thinking that but I realized it might not necessarily be; xyxt might be aware of reports of soldiers who claimed to be aethiests but prayed when battle broke out, either because they survived and recalled the event themselves, or or their fellow soldiers overheard them.

That is indeed the case.

For what it is worth, there have also been numerous individuals quoted as saying they lost faith in any deity after witnessing the horrible realities of war. That is not including those who flipped out and became killers of everything instead of soldiers, I don't include them as they fall under neither atheist nor deity follower, they are unfortunately people who have completely broken from reality.

 

[zyxt9]

And just to add, because I didn't speak on this yet, I also think prayer has some positive outcome. But only the feeling the individual gets from doing it, purely psychological.

If it makes people happy, and feel better about themselves/the world...pray away. But the idea of a part-time deity who answers some prayers, and not others in no specific way or order.....yeah......sorry, but no.

Now this I like and respect as it falls more into the realm of to each their own. If someone prays and it works for them, great. If someone is atheistic and that works for them, great.

However, I think a deity would be very specific in which prayers it would or would not answer based on how the infinite possibilities play out that we would never grasp. Just my own theory on why some prayers are answerwd and others not.

 

[Michchamp]

Now this I like and respect as it falls more into the realm of to each their own. If someone prays and it works for them, great. If someone is atheistic and that works for them, great.

However, I think a deity would be very specific in which prayers it would or would not answer based on how the infinite possibilities play out that we would never grasp. Just my own theory on why some prayers are answerwd and others not.

I'm fine with that. if only religious people would keep their beliefs and morals to themselves and not vote to restrict other people's rights, or control other people's education, I would also refrain from criticizing them.

 

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I'm fine with that. if only religious people would keep their beliefs and morals to themselves and not vote to restrict other people's rights, or control other people's education, I would also refrain from criticizing them.

Yes. This is my problem too.

People want to use some religious beliefs as laws, while they ignore others, and never seem to realize how hypocritical they are.

When they want to pass laws outlawing the consumption of pork and shellfish, or working on the sabbath, and all those others in the bible, then they can think about laws on marriage, and adoption, and everything else they think is an affront to god.