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PFF Review Week 5

Ya not quite the production I'd expect from a rd 2 wr when your #1 wr is on the sidelines.

Of course you wouldn't, guys coming off an ACL injury but you still want him to be all world. To bad your not a Wash fan you would be having a field day with RG3 right now.
 
Ya not quite the production I'd expect from a rd 2 wr when your #1 wr is on the sidelines.

He doesn't control the offense. I am not saying he was dominant on Sunday but on limited snaps he had a few catches for a few first downs. The offense was just plain terrible which sits on the shoulders of Linehan and to some degree Stafford. I have been saying it all year that the player personnel packages are terrible and the tempo of the offense is to predictable. If they went with a modified no huddle like the old colts did with manning I would be much happier. Dont allow defenses to adjust and dictate to them what they are going to run. If that means you keep them in nickel or a base set then so be it. Its not enough to have good schemes and plays its everything leading up to the play. I want more audibles and faster approach to the LOS. How many times did we run the play clock down to 1 trying to adjust which just makes the snap count predictable makes things tougher on the oline because the dline knows when the snap is coming. Its just frustrating that an NFL team wouldnt be a little more imaginative.
 
He doesn't control the offense. I am not saying he was dominant on Sunday but on limited snaps he had a few catches for a few first downs. The offense was just plain terrible which sits on the shoulders of Linehan and to some degree Stafford. I have been saying it all year that the player personnel packages are terrible and the tempo of the offense is to predictable. If they went with a modified no huddle like the old colts did with manning I would be much happier. Dont allow defenses to adjust and dictate to them what they are going to run. If that means you keep them in nickel or a base set then so be it. Its not enough to have good schemes and plays its everything leading up to the play. I want more audibles and faster approach to the LOS. How many times did we run the play clock down to 1 trying to adjust which just makes the snap count predictable makes things tougher on the oline because the dline knows when the snap is coming. Its just frustrating that an NFL team wouldnt be a little more imaginative.

Did you watch Matt Ryan's uptempo down 2 scores in the 4th last night? Compare that with us down two scores Sunday afternoon.
 
He doesn't control the offense. I am not saying he was dominant on Sunday but on limited snaps he had a few catches for a few first downs. The offense was just plain terrible which sits on the shoulders of Linehan and to some degree Stafford. I have been saying it all year that the player personnel packages are terrible and the tempo of the offense is to predictable. If they went with a modified no huddle like the old colts did with manning I would be much happier. Dont allow defenses to adjust and dictate to them what they are going to run. If that means you keep them in nickel or a base set then so be it. Its not enough to have good schemes and plays its everything leading up to the play. I want more audibles and faster approach to the LOS. How many times did we run the play clock down to 1 trying to adjust which just makes the snap count predictable makes things tougher on the oline because the dline knows when the snap is coming. Its just frustrating that an NFL team wouldnt be a little more imaginative.

Up tempo. Terrible terrible terrible strategy against the Packers when you want to control the clock and keep Rodgers off the field.
 
Up tempo. Terrible terrible terrible strategy against the Packers when you want to control the clock and keep Rodgers off the field.

The defense was stopping Rogers for field goals almost the whole game. You go up tempo when your offense is stalling. The offense never got traction so why not mix it up. Also why are you controlling the clock when you are freaking losing the game! You cant win if you dont score points. Maddens best quote: "The team with the MOST points at the end of the game will win". If it turned into a shootout so what at least we wouldnt have our offense shutout except for a garbage time TD and a fieldgoal.
 
Rodgers gets more opportunities with high tempo. Very dumb strategy no matter what the offense was doing. The Lions had 5 drives in the game where they moved the ball respectfully but never had short fields. The long fields cost this team against the Cards and Pack. They'll get Calvin back and be fine. We can try up tempo against Cleveland.
 
Of course you wouldn't, guys coming off an ACL injury but you still want him to be all world. To bad your not a Wash fan you would be having a field day with RG3 right now.

Its not about coming off ACL surgery, its about another high draft pick that in 2 years hasn't done jack shit. If he's healthy enough to get snaps then push him..what are they waiting for?
 
IMO, up tempo now and again is the way to go - whether it be early in a 0-0 game or late. Honestly though I'm not sure the Lions could pull it off with their personnel.
 
And the Packers were in nickel for 63 of the 68 snaps. Up tempo would not matter for catching them in a bad matchup. Giving Rodgers extra time would be dumb.
 
And the Packers were in nickel for 63 of the 68 snaps. Up tempo would not matter for catching them in a bad matchup. Giving Rodgers extra time would be dumb.

We were having trouble scoring so keeping the Packers D out there, the same guys, might have helped. You don't worry about limiting snaps by Rodgers at that point. You need to get the offense going a bit and uptempo (no huddle) might have helped..
 
It doesn't help. It was Oline blocking execution and WR separation. Plus Bush didn't always go towards his hole. None of that has to do with how long the huddle is.
 
It doesn't help. It was Oline blocking execution and WR separation. Plus Bush didn't always go towards his hole. None of that has to do with how long the huddle is.

No huddle doesn't help? Says who, you? Teams use it effectively all the time and its a good strategy when the offense is stagnant.
 
And apparently you don't understand, LKP. So here's an explanation: Run no-huddle, defense has to run out the same guys, they get tired - help won't be coming in because there isn't time.

That's why teams run a no-huddle. Then, we'd need Staff to be able to change a play at the line - which I'm not sure he's capable of.
 
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And the Packers were in nickel for 63 of the 68 snaps. Up tempo would not matter for catching them in a bad matchup. Giving Rodgers extra time would be dumb.

Cause burning clock in the 4th qtr when we have 3 points is brilliant.
 
Cause burning clock in the 4th qtr when we have 3 points is brilliant.

I think that's the issue...I don't believe anyone is suggesting that the Lions should have been running no-huddle the entire game. But to be down a couple scores in the fourth and playing like you've got the lead is asinine.
 
Cause burning clock in the 4th qtr when we have 3 points is brilliant.

They moved the ball well in the 4th. Missed one to Edwards and the sack to end a drive by Matthews. Scheffler drop on 3rd and 3 and miss to Durham to end a drive and the garbage TD drive. The tempo was just fine in the 4th Quarter. Got to finish those drives and win the game.
 
They moved the ball well in the 4th. Missed one to Edwards and the sack to end a drive by Matthews. Scheffler drop on 3rd and 3 and miss to Durham to end a drive and the garbage TD drive. The tempo was just fine in the 4th Quarter. Got to finish those drives and win the game.

there was no chance they were going to win that game in the 4th.
 
there was no chance they were going to win that game in the 4th.

They moved the ball into GB territory twice just couldn't finish after going down 16-3. Bush doesn't slip and it's 16-10 rather quickly.
 
They moved the ball into GB territory twice just couldn't finish after going down 16-3. Bush doesn't slip and it's 16-10 rather quickly.

and then GB might not be so conservative and not settle for FGs in the 4th. GB owned the Lions.
 
They moved the ball into GB territory twice just couldn't finish after going down 16-3. Bush doesn't slip and it's 16-10 rather quickly.

Yeah, if he broke a bunch of tackles. You make it sound like no one was near him and it was an easy TD.
 
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