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Playoffs Expanded

In the last four years the Yankees and Red Sox were BOTH in the playoffs only once, in 2009.
 
I think they need to make it a 3 game series with the team who had the better record getting homefield. MLB needs to start having mandatory double headers in the summer too so the season can end in the middle of September.
 
amajjd said:
I think they need to make it a 3 game series with the team who had the better record getting homefield. MLB needs to start having mandatory double headers in the summer too so the season can end in the middle of September.

I disagree about the doubleheaders.

It's a logistical nightmare for the ballpark crews, plus it plays hell with the 25 man rosters if you have to either make pitchers go on short rest or call up spot starters and option guys down to make space.
 
MI_Thumb said:
amajjd said:
I think they need to make it a 3 game series with the team who had the better record getting homefield. MLB needs to start having mandatory double headers in the summer too so the season can end in the middle of September.

I disagree about the doubleheaders.

It's a logistical nightmare for the ballpark crews, plus it plays hell with the 25 man rosters if you have to either make pitchers go on short rest or call up spot starters and option guys down to make space.

It's the only way to get the regular season to end earlier to have an additional play in series. We all know they are not going to cut games so double headers are the only way
 
MI_Thumb said:
amajjd said:
I think they need to make it a 3 game series with the team who had the better record getting homefield. MLB needs to start having mandatory double headers in the summer too so the season can end in the middle of September.

I disagree about the doubleheaders.

It's a logistical nightmare for the ballpark crews, plus it plays hell with the 25 man rosters if you have to either make pitchers go on short rest or call up spot starters and option guys down to make space.

MLB can allow teams playing in double headers to expand the roster by two players.
 
tomdalton22 said:
MI_Thumb said:
I disagree about the doubleheaders.

It's a logistical nightmare for the ballpark crews, plus it plays hell with the 25 man rosters if you have to either make pitchers go on short rest or call up spot starters and option guys down to make space.

MLB can allow teams playing in double headers to expand the roster by two players.

That would create a whole different set of issues. For example, rather than paying salary for a 25-man roster, they are paying for 27-man roster, even if it a few games. Next comes the service time dilema. Or even jeopardizing someone's options.

Add in the fact that any change has to be agreed upon by the Player's Union. They would probably like adding 2 more to the rosters and maybe even playing less games. I doubt they agree to doubleheaders without some sort of compensation.
 
rebbiv said:
tomdalton22 said:
MLB can allow teams playing in double headers to expand the roster by two players.

That would create a whole different set of issues. For example, rather than paying salary for a 25-man roster, they are paying for 27-man roster, even if it a few games. Next comes the service time dilema. Or even jeopardizing someone's options.

Add in the fact that any change has to be agreed upon by the Player's Union. They would probably like adding 2 more to the rosters and maybe even playing less games. I doubt they agree to doubleheaders without some sort of compensation.

I don't know if there is any language regarding double headers but they may not have a choice. As far as options, salary, etc....that would be up to each team. They wouldn't have to call up the extra guys. Anyway, it was just a suggestion. As far as I'm concerned they should be able to have 5 day night double headers every year. They did it back in the day...let them do it now.
 
tomdalton22 said:
rebbiv said:
That would create a whole different set of issues. For example, rather than paying salary for a 25-man roster, they are paying for 27-man roster, even if it a few games. Next comes the service time dilema. Or even jeopardizing someone's options.

Add in the fact that any change has to be agreed upon by the Player's Union. They would probably like adding 2 more to the rosters and maybe even playing less games. I doubt they agree to doubleheaders without some sort of compensation.

I don't know if there is any language regarding double headers but they may not have a choice. As far as options, salary, etc....that would be up to each team. They wouldn't have to call up the extra guys. Anyway, it was just a suggestion. As far as I'm concerned they should be able to have 5 day night double headers every year. They did it back in the day...let them do it now.

No way the players union agrees to that, just because "they did it back in the day".

These days what players make, and owners spend nobody is going to risk someone getting hurt because he chased fly balls in CF for 18 or more innings in a day.

The whole logic of double headers is to get the playoffs to start a week or two early, not worth the trouble really.
 
MI_Thumb said:
tomdalton22 said:
I don't know if there is any language regarding double headers but they may not have a choice. As far as options, salary, etc....that would be up to each team. They wouldn't have to call up the extra guys. Anyway, it was just a suggestion. As far as I'm concerned they should be able to have 5 day night double headers every year. They did it back in the day...let them do it now.

No way the players union agrees to that, just because "they did it back in the day".

These days what players make, and owners spend nobody is going to risk someone getting hurt because he chased fly balls in CF for 18 or more innings in a day.

The whole logic of double headers is to get the playoffs to start a week or two early, not worth the trouble really.

Do we know if double headers are not allowed by the player's union? (I honestly don't know)
 
No, I'm saying the players union would likely veto mandatory doubleheaders, especially 5 a year.
 
I'll bet the one-game WC playoff will be expanded to three games when an EC WC team, with a superior regular-season record gets bounced by another with a substantially inferior record for a couple of consecutive postseasons.

Then MLB will have to decide whether to start the regular season in mid-March, or play the WS into maybe mid-November.

Or as has been mentioned expand the rosters to 27-28 and every team plays some afternoon/evening "double-headers" (should be considered playing two games in one day) MLB has long ago eliminated what "was" a real doubleheader, back in the day, when baseball fans could watch two games when purchasing just one ticket. I have attended about a handful of true doubleheaders, once with the first game going into extra innings, and remember leaving early during the second game of the "twin-bill," b/c the Tigers were being blown out.
 
MI_Thumb said:
No, I'm saying the players union would likely veto mandatory doubleheaders, especially 5 a year.

My question is do they have the right to veto double headers.
 
tomdalton22 said:
MI_Thumb said:
No, I'm saying the players union would likely veto mandatory doubleheaders, especially 5 a year.

My question is do they have the right to veto double headers.


It's a union, they can do what they want really.

If the players union decides against it, absolutely they can veto it.
 
MI_Thumb said:
tomdalton22 said:
My question is do they have the right to veto double headers.


It's a union, they can do what they want really.

If the players union decides against it, absolutely they can veto it.

That isn't true. If there is no provision in the current CBA that says double headers are NOT allowed then they can be scheduled. I just don't know what kind of scheduling limitations there are in the CBA.
 
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