Playoffs

[Mitchrapp]

He's fucking terrible. His overall career has proved that but for some reason he plays well in that Eagles system. It's mindblowing...

Him or Cassell? That's what I thought.

 

[tonyballs]

Him or Cassell? That's what I thought.

You're not smart enough to generate a thought in that pea brain of yours bruh. You're clueless.
Nick Foles is not a good QB. He just plays well in this system for some reason. Be a fucking trooper and go look up his overall numbers and tell me he's good. He isn't...

 

[Mitchrapp]

You're not smart enough to generate a thought in that pea brain of yours bruh. You're clueless.
Nick Foles is not a good QB. He just plays well in this system for some reason. Be a fucking trooper and go look up his overall numbers and tell me he's good. He isn't...

Most of his games have been in Philly. So him playing well "In the system" says he's not too bad. No ones calling him a stud but he's not all that bad. And who called him good..

You always seem to not understand the 'words'. I said NOT BAD. Not sure how you turned not bad into I'm saying he's good. Dumb as a brick you are.

 

[LKP]

Foles had 77 rating
How do you win with 77 rating
Protection. Stafford didn’t have that much in final 10
good defense. Held bears to 15 helps. Go Schwartz
Dropped pick by bears in end zone. That helps
Missed fgs helps
Oh and Jeffrey, Tate, algohor, ertz, sproles, and Dallas Goedert. Lots of high weapons or high priced. Stafford had golladay and riddick only in final 7 games and riddick didn’t play that well

Stafford drops 40 on the bears with all that

 

[tonyballs]

Most of his games have been in Philly. So him playing well "In the system" says he's not too bad. No ones calling him a stud but he's not all that bad. And who called him good..

You always seem to not understand the 'words'. I said NOT BAD. Not sure how you turned not bad into I'm saying he's good. Dumb as a brick you are.

Lmao. He's trash but I don't expect a pure simpleton to understand it either. Go look at his stats, moron and come back to me. They're fucking abysmal...

 

[LKP]

Lmao. He's trash but I don't expect a pure simpleton to understand it either. Go look at his stats, moron and come back to me. They're fucking abysmal...

Foles did great in 2013 starting with 119 rating. 2014 was average but went 6-2 and broke his collarbone and chip Kelly traded for Bradford after 2014 sending foles to rams. 2015 sucked with rams but every qb sucks with fisher including Goff. backup for chiefs with Reid and Pederson. Followed pederson to eagles signing two year deal which made him backup this year. Bad reg season but great playoffs last year. Good year in 2018 and did enough in playoff game yesterday

 

[tigermud]

Foles had 77 rating
How do you win with 77 rating
Protection. Stafford didn?t have that much in final 10
good defense. Held bears to 15 helps. Go Schwartz
Dropped pick by bears in end zone. That helps
Missed fgs helps
Oh and Jeffrey, Tate, algohor, ertz, sproles, and Dallas Goedert. Lots of high weapons or high priced. Stafford had golladay and riddick only in final 7 games and riddick didn?t play that well

Stafford drops 40 on the bears with all that

More Protection and time to throw wouldn?t have helped him the lion receivers can?t get open

Looks like Calvin is looking for something to do, come back CJ!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/ma...n-johnson-marijuana-detroit-lions/2238344002/

lol

 

[LKP]

More Protection and time to throw wouldn’t have helped him the lion receivers can’t get open

Looks like Calvin is looking for something to do, come back CJ!

https://www.freep.com/story/news/ma...n-johnson-marijuana-detroit-lions/2238344002/

lol

With time they will eventually get open. Agreed Stafford need healthier weapons though too

Lions run game was 28th ypc and 23rd yards. Need Kerryon health for that

 

[Mitchrapp]

Lmao. He's trash but I don't expect a pure simpleton to understand it either. Go look at his stats, moron and come back to me. They're fucking abysmal...

At least I can read. Maybe you don't understand the meaning not bad. It doesn't mean good. Passer rating 88.5, Matty 88.4. :lmao:

 

[tigermud]

With time they will eventually get open. Agreed Stafford need healthier weapons though too

Lions run game was 28th ypc and 23rd yards. Need Kerryon health for that

Replace Blount and keep zenner as well and I think run game will be ok

 

[LKP]

Replace Blount and keep zenner as well and I think run game will be ok

Blount was beyond terrible and got 154 carries. Insane

 

[tonyballs]

At least I can read. Maybe you don't understand the meaning not bad. It doesn't mean good. Passer rating 88.5, Matty 88.4. :lmao:

I know how to read, you goofball. Calling him not bad, ok, serviceable or whatever the fuck you want to call him is laughable. HE'S TRASH.
And you talk about cherry picking a stat but use QBR like it's gospel lol. It's a terrible stat to guage a QB on. Try again,...

 

[tomdalton22]

I think TRASH is very harsh. His sample size is small (1581 attempts) but based on those attempts I would call him an average QB. His overall numbers do compare to Staffords, although I think Stafford has much more natural ability.


Foles
Stafford

comp%
61.6
62.4

YPA
7.06
7.13

TD%
4.3
4.4

Int%
2.1
2.4

His postseason numbers are better than Stafford's. Although Stafford's sample size is smaller than Foles (117 attempts to Foles' 179)

Foles 69.8 comp%, 5.6 TD%, 1.7 INT%, 8.0 YPA
Stafford 63.2 comp%, 3.4 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 7.8 YPA

 

[grandy]

His overall numbers do compare to Staffords, although I think Stafford has much more natural ability.

This seems to be at the heart of nearly every Stafford debate, even if it isn?t explicitly mentioned. His numbers just don?t seem to match his perceived talent level.

I know it?s not entirely his fault, but I think the sample size is large enough at this point to show what he is, yet for some reason there?s still this hope of what he could be.

Real Stafford vs Theoretical Stafford

 

[tomdalton22]

This seems to be at the heart of nearly every Stafford debate, even if it isn?t explicitly mentioned. His numbers just don?t seem to match his perceived talent level.

I know it?s not entirely his fault, but I think the sample size is large enough at this point to show what he is, yet for some reason there?s still this hope of what he could be.

Real Stafford vs Theoretical Stafford

he wouldn't be the first QB to have the physical tools that didn't live up to his potential

 

[brewer229]

We would have probably been better off if Stafford was just a bust.

His ups and downs give hope, and has given him a lot of money, but the consistency just isn't there to be a franchise QB. He is someone that needs a lot of help to win, so you can win with him, you just don't win because of him...The trouble is he's paid to be that, which makes it a bit harder to build the team he needs.

Hopefully the current regime sees that the defense and running game are the way to go, we can't count on the passing game to win us anything, it just needs to be the cherry on top on the games it decides to show up.

 

[LKP]

3 of 11 picks were staffords fault

Stafford rarely makes bad throws or bad decisions. The team lets him down in protection, separation and run game mainly due to injuries

Stafford is a hall of fame qb who will be 5th or 6th all time in tds. We are lucky to have him abd bob quinn agrees

 

[tonyballs]

I think TRASH is very harsh. His sample size is small (1581 attempts) but based on those attempts I would call him an average QB. His overall numbers do compare to Staffords, although I think Stafford has much more natural ability.


Foles
Stafford

comp%
61.6
62.4

YPA
7.06
7.13

TD%
4.3
4.4

Int%
2.1
2.4

His postseason numbers are better than Stafford's. Although Stafford's sample size is smaller than Foles (117 attempts to Foles' 179)

Foles 69.8 comp%, 5.6 TD%, 1.7 INT%, 8.0 YPA
Stafford 63.2 comp%, 3.4 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 7.8 YPA

Stafford is better than Foles. This isn't even an argument lol

 

[boogerlovejoy]

3 of 11 picks were staffords fault

Stafford rarely makes bad throws or bad decisions. The team lets him down in protection, separation and run game mainly due to injuries

Stafford is a hall of fame qb who will be 5th or 6th all time in tds. We are lucky to have him abd bob quinn agrees

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

I can remember maybe one or two pics that were not his fault. Fact is, Stafford threw some really bad passes this year. That?s going to happen for every quarterback during the course of the season? But he simply was not very good in 2018. His numbers and our record reflect that.

Was it 100% his fault? Of course not......but besides a pitcher in baseball....a quarterback has more control over the outcome of a game than any other position in sports. And we came up short this year.

 

[LKP]

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

I can remember maybe one or two pics that were not his fault. Fact is, Stafford threw some really bad passes this year. That?s going to happen for every quarterback during the course of the season? But he simply was not very good in 2018. His numbers and our record reflect that.

Was it 100% his fault? Of course not......but besides a pitcher in baseball....a quarterback has more control over the outcome of a game than any other position in sports. And we came up short this year.

Only 3 were hia fault. Watch again

Also basically 8 picks in 3 losses. Jets, bears twice. Bears led league in tunrovers forcrd

Other 14 games. 3 picks
1 against pats. Win
1 down 14 to seattle
1 down 14 to rams on final worthless play where golladay didnt jump

Stafford had a good year. Team had an injured year