Rd 1

[ruff]

ok 9 days to go. I absolutely suck at drafts, but I enjoy reading most of yours, so post your full rd 1 draft, you can include trade scenarios you think will happen.

 

[cheeno]

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/47031/271/team-by-team-visits--and--workouts

Cheatsheet

 

[Mitchrapp]

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/47031/271/team-by-team-visits--and--workouts

Cheatsheet

That second page is telling: Dallas, long list. Denver, short. Detroit, long list. GB, short.

 

[tomdalton22]

That second page is telling: Dallas, long list. Denver, short. Detroit, long list. GB, short.

I think some of it has to do with where they are drafting.

 

[LKP]

That second page is telling: Dallas, long list. Denver, short. Detroit, long list. GB, short.

Due dilligence is a good thing (remember Titus Young not visiting). And some visits help the Lions not tip their hand at 10. Bashing the Lions for bringing in alot of guys is dumb.

 

[tomdalton22]

Due dilligence is a good thing (remember Titus Young not visiting). And some visits help the Lions not tip their hand at 10. Bashing the Lions for bringing in alot of guys is dumb.

so you are saying they did not do their due diligence when they wasted a 2nd round pick on Titus.

 

[LKP]

so you are saying they did not do their due diligence when they wasted a 2nd round pick on Titus.

No known visits doesn't prove no due dilligence. I'm sure they scouted and talked to people. Don't know who they talked too about him. You only get a certain number of visits. And even with a visit, Young could be coached to say or do the right things and take his meds that day.

But not using all your perscribed visits you get like Denver and GB appears there sounds kind of dumb. Maybe they just aren't declared to the public though or their beat writers suck in tracking it.

 

[tonyballs]

Visits mean jackshit.

 

[schles192]

Due dilligence is a good thing (remember Titus Young not visiting). And some visits help the Lions not tip their hand at 10. Bashing the Lions for bringing in alot of guys is dumb.

Didn't they coach him at the senior bowl where he showed up in an RV with his picture on the side?

 

[cheeno]

Visits mean jackshit.

Last year every player we took visited. The year before, none. It's a toss up.

 

[LKP]

Didn't they coach him at the senior bowl where he showed up in an RV with his picture on the side?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Senior_Bowl

No Bills and Bengals coached 2011 Senior Bowl.

 

[mhughes0021]

threw 3 trades in. Det moves down to 15 as pitt reacts to a run on OTs. 49ers move up for a playmaker at WR. Jax moves back into the first for their qb.

1 1 Houston Texans Jadeveon Clowney* DE 6'5?" 266 South Carolina
2 2 St. Louis Rams (from Washington) Greg Robinson OT 6'5" 332 Auburn
3 3 Jacksonville Jaguars Sammy Watkins* WR 6'0?" 211 Clemson
4 4 Cleveland Browns Johnny Manziel* QB 5'11?" 207 Texas A&M
5 5 Oakland Raiders Jake Matthews OT 6'5?" 308 Texas A&M 95
6 6 Atlanta Falcons Khalil Mack OLB 6'2⅝" 251 Buffalo
7 7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Evans* WR 6'4?" 231 Texas A&M
8 8 Minnesota Vikings Blake Bortles* QB 6'5" 232 UCF
9 9 Buffalo Bills Taylor Lewan OT 6'7⅛" 309 Michigan
10 10 Pittsburgh Steelers (trade from det) Zack Martin OT 6'4?" 308 Notre Dame
11 11 Tennessee Titans Darqueze Dennard CB 5'10⅞" 199 Michigan State
12 12 New York Giants Eric Ebron* TE 6'4⅜" 250 North Carolina
13 13 St. Louis Rams Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S 6'1⅜" 208 Alabama
14 14 Chicago Bears Aaron Donald DT 6'0?" 285 Pittsburgh
15 15 Detroit Lions (trade from pit) Justin Gilbert CB 6'0⅛" 202 Oklahoma State
16 16 Dallas Cowboys Calvin Pryor* S 5'11⅛" 207 Louisville
17 17 Baltimore Ravens C.J. Mosley ILB 6'2" 234 Alabama
18 18 New York Jets Odell Beckham Jr.* WR 5'11?" 198 LSU
19 19 49ers (trade from mia) Brandin Cooks* WR 5'9?" 189 Oregon State
20 20 Arizona Cardinals Teddy Bridgewater* QB 6'2⅛" 214 Louisville
21 21 Green Bay Packers Morgan Moses OT 6'6" 314 Virginia
22 22 Philadelphia Eagles Marqise Lee* WR 5'11?" 192 USC
23 23 Jax (trade from kc) Derek Carr QB 6'2⅜" 214 Fresno State
24 24 Cincinnati Bengals Kyle Fuller CB 5'11?" 190 Virginia Tech
25 25 San Diego Chargers Anthony Barr OLB 6'4⅞" 255 UCLA
26 26 Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis) Ra'Shede Hageman DT 6'5⅞" 310 Minnesota
27 27 New Orleans Saints Ryan Shazier OLB 6'1⅛" 237 Ohio State
28 28 Carolina Panthers Cody Latimer* WR 6'2?" 215 Indiana
29 29 New England Patriots Louis Nix III DT 6'2⅜" 331 Notre Dame
30 30 Miami (trade from sf) Kony Ealy DE 6'4" 273 Missouri
31 31 Denver Broncos Jason Verrett CB 5'9?" 189 TCU
32 32 Seattle Seahawks Stephon Tuitt DE 6'5?" 304 Notre Dame

 

[tonyballs]

Last year every player we took visited. The year before, none. It's a toss up.

Exactly.

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

Based somewhat on our track record with second round picks, but primarily on needs and availability, I'm beginning to think we should try to trade into the back end of the first round for Shazier. Palmer has done an adequate job, but Shazier looks like a stud. He has the speed to cover in the slot, and is a very sound tackler. Assuming we get Gilbert/Dennard/HaHa first, Shazier could provide noticeable improvement to the defense.

We could still find a burner WR or slot guy (depending on how we utilize Tate) in the later rounds.

 

[michiganalex]

Based somewhat on our track record with second round picks, but primarily on needs and availability, I'm beginning to think we should try to trade into the back end of the first round for Shazier. Palmer has done an adequate job, but Shazier looks like a stud. He has the speed to cover in the slot, and is a very sound tackler. Assuming we get Gilbert/Dennard/HaHa first, Shazier could provide noticeable improvement to the defense.

We could still find a burner WR or slot guy (depending on how we utilize Tate) in the later rounds.

the kid Janis from Saginaw Valley State could be possible

 

[thehippo73]

Based somewhat on our track record with second round picks, but primarily on needs and availability, I'm beginning to think we should try to trade into the back end of the first round for Shazier. Palmer has done an adequate job, but Shazier looks like a stud. He has the speed to cover in the slot, and is a very sound tackler. Assuming we get Gilbert/Dennard/HaHa first, Shazier could provide noticeable improvement to the defense.

We could still find a burner WR or slot guy (depending on how we utilize Tate) in the later rounds.

I like Shazier but I think our next OLB will be more of a pass rushing type instead of a coverage LB.

A guy I like in the late rounds is Devon Kennard from USC. He is an injury risk but the upside is there. I have always preferred taking the injury risk/high potential guys in the late rounds instead of the 2nd. Yeah I'm talking to you Mayhew.

 

[thehippo73]

the kid Janis from Saginaw Valley State could be possible

I was impressed with Janis' 40 time. But watching him at the combine during the drills, he was very stiff. I think he would be good for the fly route only and we have Fuller from last year for a fly only guy.

 

[lgolfer]

threw 3 trades in. Det moves down to 15 as pitt reacts to a run on OTs. 49ers move up for a playmaker at WR. Jax moves back into the first for their qb.

1 1 Houston Texans Jadeveon Clowney* DE 6'5?" 266 South Carolina
2 2 St. Louis Rams (from Washington) Greg Robinson OT 6'5" 332 Auburn
3 3 Jacksonville Jaguars Sammy Watkins* WR 6'0?" 211 Clemson
4 4 Cleveland Browns Johnny Manziel* QB 5'11?" 207 Texas A&M
5 5 Oakland Raiders Jake Matthews OT 6'5?" 308 Texas A&M 95
6 6 Atlanta Falcons Khalil Mack OLB 6'2⅝" 251 Buffalo
7 7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Evans* WR 6'4?" 231 Texas A&M
8 8 Minnesota Vikings Blake Bortles* QB 6'5" 232 UCF
9 9 Buffalo Bills Taylor Lewan OT 6'7⅛" 309 Michigan
10 10 Pittsburgh Steelers (trade from det) Zack Martin OT 6'4?" 308 Notre Dame
11 11 Tennessee Titans Darqueze Dennard CB 5'10⅞" 199 Michigan State
12 12 New York Giants Eric Ebron* TE 6'4⅜" 250 North Carolina
13 13 St. Louis Rams Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S 6'1⅜" 208 Alabama
14 14 Chicago Bears Aaron Donald DT 6'0?" 285 Pittsburgh
15 15 Detroit Lions (trade from pit) Justin Gilbert CB 6'0⅛" 202 Oklahoma State
16 16 Dallas Cowboys Calvin Pryor* S 5'11⅛" 207 Louisville
17 17 Baltimore Ravens C.J. Mosley ILB 6'2" 234 Alabama
18 18 New York Jets Odell Beckham Jr.* WR 5'11?" 198 LSU
19 19 49ers (trade from mia) Brandin Cooks* WR 5'9?" 189 Oregon State
20 20 Arizona Cardinals Teddy Bridgewater* QB 6'2⅛" 214 Louisville
21 21 Green Bay Packers Morgan Moses OT 6'6" 314 Virginia
22 22 Philadelphia Eagles Marqise Lee* WR 5'11?" 192 USC
23 23 Jax (trade from kc) Derek Carr QB 6'2⅜" 214 Fresno State
24 24 Cincinnati Bengals Kyle Fuller CB 5'11?" 190 Virginia Tech
25 25 San Diego Chargers Anthony Barr OLB 6'4⅞" 255 UCLA
26 26 Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis) Ra'Shede Hageman DT 6'5⅞" 310 Minnesota
27 27 New Orleans Saints Ryan Shazier OLB 6'1⅛" 237 Ohio State
28 28 Carolina Panthers Cody Latimer* WR 6'2?" 215 Indiana
29 29 New England Patriots Louis Nix III DT 6'2⅜" 331 Notre Dame
30 30 Miami (trade from sf) Kony Ealy DE 6'4" 273 Missouri
31 31 Denver Broncos Jason Verrett CB 5'9?" 189 TCU
32 32 Seattle Seahawks Stephon Tuitt DE 6'5?" 304 Notre Dame

What kind of a pick do you think we'd get for moving back from 10 to 15? A 4th rounder?

 

[Mitchrapp]

What kind of a pick do you think we'd get for moving back from 10 to 15? A 4th rounder?

Has to be at least a third round pick.

 

[lgolfer]

Has to be at least a third round pick.

That's definitely the #1 option in my opinion if we can find a team to trade down with. A 3rd round pick in this draft could be a very good player.