Romney Will Vote to Convict and Remove President Trump

[tigermud]

What part do you disagree with? That Trump puts himself first or that that's what's terrible about him?

He puts American first on trade, he's not a commie or a NWO guy, that's all I ever wanted.

 

[tigermud]

so can the house go back and try again with the same charges or would that be double jeopardy?

 

[Gulo Blue]

so can the house go back and try again with the same charges or would that be double jeopardy?

I think it's mostly gray area. Both parties can do whatever they can get away with until they are voted out.

 

[tigermud]

I think it's mostly gray area. Both parties can do whatever they can get away with until they are voted out.

I would support term limits on congress at 12 years and move the Presidency back to 3 terms as well. Some of these people in congress should really retire once dementia sets in as it has for a couple of em.

 

[Spartanmack]

i admit i don't know much about impeachment or the constitution for that matter; does romney's vote sway anything?

Or have any other actual effects? If not, why did this more or less symbolic gesture deserve its own thread?

fify

 

[Spartanmack]

so can the house go back and try again with the same charges or would that be double jeopardy?

they can always bring new trumped up charges (trumped with a small "t").

 

[tigermud]

I forgot all about that one does mitt prefer mitt or Pierre delecto

 

[Gulo Blue]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-aFfJe20U

 

[Spartanmack]

Does anyone really believe that the Republican senator who hates Trump more than any other really is just voting his conscience? The guy who Democrats made out to be evil and untrustworthy because he bought up companies and laid off workers so their wives would die of cancer is suddenly a man of great integrity because he's the lone Republican on their side? All the fawning over Romney seems a bit disingenuous to me.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Does anyone really believe that the Republican senator who hates Trump more than any other really is just voting his conscience? The guy who Democrats made out to be evil and untrustworthy because he bought up companies and laid off workers so their wives would die of cancer is suddenly a man of great integrity because he's the lone Republican on their side? All the fawning over Romney seems a bit disingenuous to me.

You can see a difference between a person's approach towards capitalism and their integrity. You can think a person is a 'cold-hearted' capitalist with or without integrity. Same as you can look at Bernie (for example) as being right or wrong about how socialist we should be as a completely separate topic from whether or not he has integrity.


I think he what he lacks is empathy. You strap a dog to the roof of the car, you're either an idiot that's lucky to have survived your youth or you lack empathy and fail to think about what you put others through...or you're an asshole.

 

[Michchamp]

I didn't like Romney in 2012; the history with Bain Capital was an issue for me, although the more I learned about that sleazy industry, I don't think Bain was anywhere near the bottom in terms of bad faith, sleazy dealings.

Nominating douchenozzle Paul Ryan was another red flag, that to me showed where he would go as a president, in terms of policy. plus, and this is just me, some of the work I was doing at the time involved hedge fund guys - who were awful - and they were all huge Romney supporters, viewing Mitt as a messiah for the industry who would allow them to ignore investor & SEC regulations completely, and basically go wholesale fraud (as though they needed MORE money, and didn't already own the DOJ & SEC...)

More recently - even before this - Mitt seemed to have been turning away from the hard right stuff. he wrote a letter critical of private equity & the current business environment in the last year (I am trying to find it)... Maybe there's hope for him after all?

 

[Michchamp]

Trump has a way of making the prior corruption of "moderate" GOP guys seem downright clean by comparison.

 

[Gulo Blue]

If it seems weird for the left to be painting Romney in any amount of a positive light, just think about how weird it is for him to be demonized and maybe booted from the party that had picked him as their candidate for President.

 

[Michchamp]

If it seems weird for the left to be painting Romney in any amount of a positive light, just think about how weird it is for him to be demonized and maybe booted from the party that had picked him as their candidate for President.

But it's different when they do it.

 

[Spartanmack]

You can see a difference between a person's approach towards capitalism and their integrity. You can think a person is a 'cold-hearted' capitalist with or without integrity. Same as you can look at Bernie (for example) as being right or wrong about how socialist we should be as a completely separate topic from whether or not he has integrity.


I think he what he lacks is empathy. You strap a dog to the roof of the car, you're either an idiot that's lucky to have survived your youth or you lack empathy and fail to think about what you put others through...or you're an asshole.

if Romney was on the fence and ended up casting the vote that saved Trump from being removed, that's exactly the kind of thing we would have been reminded about Romney from the left. He'll let your wife die and torture your dog to line his own pockets.

I'm not passing judgement about Romney, I've defended him as a decent person several times on this forum. I just don't believe he voted his conscience in this instance and I find the sudden support from Democrats to be complete horseshit - they'll attack the character they're lauding him for as soon as he casts a vote they don't like.

 

[Spartanmack]

...plus, and this is just me, some of the work I was doing at the time involved hedge fund guys - who were awful - and they were all huge Romney supporters, viewing Mitt as a messiah for the industry who would allow them to ignore investor & SEC regulations completely, and basically go wholesale fraud (as though they needed MORE money, and didn't already own the DOJ & SEC...)

We can add this to the list of things that never happened. Do you really expect people to believe that you had a bunch of hedge fund guys tell you, a low level contract lawyer that they supported Romney because he was going to let them break the law? I'm beginning to think you're whole life is a work of fiction.

What's maybe even funnier is you're a lawyer and you think you have the standing to talk about how sleazy other industries are.

 

[Michchamp]

We can add this to the list of things that never happened. Do you really expect people to believe that you had a bunch of hedge fund guys tell you, a low level contract lawyer that they supported Romney because he was going to let them break the law? I'm beginning to think you're whole life is a work of fiction.

What's maybe even funnier is you're a lawyer and you think you have the standing to talk about how sleazy other industries are.

u mad bro?

 

[Spartanmack]

u mad bro?

nope. I would say much closer to thoroughly entertained.

 

[Gulo Blue]

if Romney was on the fence and ended up casting the vote that saved Trump from being removed, that's exactly the kind of thing we would have been reminded about Romney from the left. He'll let your wife die and torture your dog to line his own pockets.

I'm not passing judgement about Romney, I've defended him as a decent person several times on this forum. I just don't believe he voted his conscience in this instance and I find the sudden support from Democrats to be complete horseshit - they'll attack the character they're lauding him for as soon as he casts a vote they don't like.

You've mentioned Trump hate, is that what you think drove him to vote 1) against his conscience (in your version of this) and 2) in a way that would likely get him booted from his party, or would he have some other motivation?

 

[Spartanmack]

If it seems weird for the left to be painting Romney in any amount of a positive light, just think about how weird it is for him to be demonized and maybe booted from the party that had picked him as their candidate for President.

is it all the weird if he continues to cast votes with Democrats based on a personal vendetta, or if he actually supports their agenda? I don't think it's all that unusual particularly in election years and during primary season where political parties shift further from the center - for the Dems, candidates can't be progressive enough right now. Mayor Pete told a woman there's no room for her pro life views in the Democrat party. The Squad has been trying to "primary" establishment Dems in races left and right. The Tea Party did the same thing in 2012.