***shaking head in total confusion***

[LKP]

Deion rule
http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf

Page 93. Try again hughes. It would be a completely new contract.

 

[kmd47]

You never seen Tate do anything worthwhile in this league??? LMFAO!! then this conversation is over, buddy!! Either you're too fn stupid or you just choose to be a jackass. Which is it, bro?? Holy fuck.

That from the guy who will tell you he likes Tate as a player just doesn't like the signing.... Yeah you must Really like the guy when you dog him any chance you get.

 

[mhughes0021]

Why go after Peppers when we have young guys like Jones and Taylor? Peppers is 34!!! Upside?? Not a chance......

jones is young? upside?....coming off an exploding knee? Jones' career high in sacks is a whopping 5.....and that was 6 years ago lmao. this conversation is over.

 

[mhughes0021]

Either you're too fn stupid or you just choose to be a jackass. Which is it, bro?? Holy fuck.

its neither. its called I chose not to get all slap happy over a 2nd round wr that has little to no production since hes been in the league playing with a qb that hasn't been able to get any production out of any WR not named CJ since hes been here. We paid Tate like a top FA WR and he hasn't proven to be a threat on the outside the way say an Emmanuel Sanders has....who also got a cheap deal and is a proven down field threat. Most of you agree WR is still one of our primary needs. So why would I get excited about a signing where it was considered our FA "splash" and yet is still our primary need? Go get Sanders for less money and fill some defensive holes would have been a better plan in my opinion.

 

[mhughes0021]

That from the guy who will tell you he likes Tate as a player just doesn't like the signing.... Yeah you must Really like the guy when you dog him any chance you get.

it was very broylesesque in nature. Was a luxury signing on a team with no cap room and had a ton of immediate needs we either filled with crap or have yet to fill. Similar to the luxury pick in the 2nd round of broyles when we had a ton of holes everywhere and filled them with crap. Mayhew strikes again with his thinking a 2nd round WR is going to come in and fix everything.

 

[lgolfer]

it was very broylesesque in nature. Was a luxury signing on a team with no cap room and had a ton of immediate needs we either filled with crap or have yet to fill. Similar to the luxury pick in the 2nd round of broyles when we had a ton of holes everywhere and filled them with crap. Mayhew strikes again with his thinking a 2nd round WR is going to come in and fix everything.

It's not even close to Broylesque! Everyone knows we needed WR help going into this offseason, so we got Tate who helps to lessen that problem, although not completely fix it (since no 1 free agent could've fixed it).

Filling a need is not a luxury...and 6 million isn't awful to pay a guy who will make a big impact. Also, Ihedigbo is not crap. He's an upgrade over Delmas, which means we're moving in the right direction. Lastly, we don't have a ton of immediate needs. We have a big need at DE and WR. We could use an upgrade at CB and a playmaker at OLB. And we'll need to get a safety who we can groom to eventually replace Ihedigbo in a year or two. That's only 2 big needs!

 

[michiganalex]

it was very broylesesque in nature. Was a luxury signing on a team with no cap room and had a ton of immediate needs we either filled with crap or have yet to fill. Similar to the luxury pick in the 2nd round of broyles when we had a ton of holes everywhere and filled them with crap. Mayhew strikes again with his thinking a 2nd round WR is going to come in and fix everything.

me positive

 

[mhughes0021]

me positive

you idiot

 

[mhughes0021]

It's not even close to Broylesque! Everyone knows we needed WR help going into this offseason, so we got Tate who helps to lessen that problem, although not completely fix it (since no 1 free agent could've fixed it).

Filling a need is not a luxury...and 6 million isn't awful to pay a guy who will make a big impact. Also, Ihedigbo is not crap. He's an upgrade over Delmas, which means we're moving in the right direction. Lastly, we don't have a ton of immediate needs. We have a big need at DE and WR. We could use an upgrade at CB and a playmaker at OLB. And we'll need to get a safety who we can groom to eventually replace Ihedigbo in a year or two. That's only 2 big needs!

championship! dang golfer youre usually more level headed than this. All of a sudden youre making excuses for mediocrity as well. let me spell it out for you in simplest of terms:

7 wins
mccown and Flynn finished above Stafford
tate instead of nate
ihedegogogogobo instead of delmas
rest of the team is the same except less depth on the dline
new coach, 1st time ocord, 1st time dcord

=???

heres a hint....its not much better than 7 wins if at all.

RT, WR, DE, OLB, good corner are still immediate needs. then you need oline depth, DT depth, DE depth, and if youre ok with IHEHEHEHEHEHEBOBNOBO starting than you still need S depth....not to mention a kicker.

 

[kmd47]

its neither. its called I chose not to get all slap happy over a 2nd round wr that has little to no production since hes been in the league playing with a qb that hasn't been able to get any production out of any WR not named CJ since hes been here. We paid Tate like a top FA WR and he hasn't proven to be a threat on the outside the way say an Emmanuel Sanders has....who also got a cheap deal and is a proven down field threat. Most of you agree WR is still one of our primary needs. So why would I get excited about a signing where it was considered our FA "splash" and yet is still our primary need? Go get Sanders for less money and fill some defensive holes would have been a better plan in my opinion.

Sanders IS not an outside guy. Tate is 20 pounds heavier and has actually played on the outside. You blast Tate for having limited production in a run heavy offense, where as Sanders, given even more opportunity in a Pittsburgh pass happy offense only achieved career highs last year of 67 rec 740 yards and 6 td..... Not to mention the dude is injury prone And you think he is sooooo much cheaper? He signed a 3 year deal 15 million.... 4m cap hit first year. I'll take Tate and his bigger contract 10 times out of 10.

"Sanders is steady, but his stats -- everything from yards after catch to catch percentage -- were no better than the league averages last season. He'd upgrade the receiving corps from a depth perspective, but for at least $5 million a year (the going rate for a wideout of his ilk), you expect better than average."

Yeah that's the WR splash we needed.

 

[kmd47]

I know you can't give the coaching staff any credit before a game is played, but I feel it will be addition by subtraction because 1. Schwartz was a terrible game manager and 2. Linehan might have been the most vanilla O coord I have ever seen. I mean if I can call what play we are going to run after 1 game, what do you think professional defenses think going up against that? I am very excited to get some young fresh thinking in the play calls and look forward very much to see how Lombardi will utilize all these weapons we have on O. And as you pointed out we are basically bringing back the same team which went 6 and 3 in the first 9 games until the epic collapse that injuries qb play defensive play and coaching all had a hand in, and hopefully the new staff can help the team rise above some of those obstacles. We shall see.

 

[mhughes0021]

Sanders IS not an outside guy. Tate is 20 pounds heavier and has actually played on the outside. You blast Tate for having limited production in a run heavy offense, where as Sanders, given even more opportunity in a Pittsburgh pass happy offense only achieved career highs last year of 67 rec 740 yards and 6 td..... Not to mention the dude is injury prone And you think he is sooooo much cheaper? He signed a 3 year deal 15 million.... 4m cap hit first year. I'll take Tate and his bigger contract 10 times out of 10.

"Sanders is steady, but his stats -- everything from yards after catch to catch percentage -- were no better than the league averages last season. He'd upgrade the receiving corps from a depth perspective, but for at least $5 million a year (the going rate for a wideout of his ilk), you expect better than average."

Yeah that's the WR splash we needed.

you don't watch much football...I get it. Its all good. Tate is a downfield threat. Emmanuel Sanders is just a possession guy that doesn't catch the ball much. Ur absolutely right...my bad. As far as your "more opportunity" theory...sanders got less than 1 more target per game than tate....whoopidy doo...

 

[mhughes0021]

I know you can't give the coaching staff any credit before a game is played, but I feel it will be addition by subtraction because 1. Schwartz was a terrible game manager and 2. Linehan might have been the most vanilla O coord I have ever seen. I mean if I can call what play we are going to run after 1 game, what do you think professional defenses think going up against that?.

nice job mayhew! Not only can you fuck up a roster.....you sure do know how to pick them coaches!

 

[michiganalex]

you idiot

oh my god he called me an idiot!!! i should run and hide

 

[mhughes0021]

oh my god he called me an idiot!!! i should run and hide

who the fuck says "me positive"? an idiot....that's who lol....

 

[LKP]

its neither. its called I chose not to get all slap happy over a 2nd round wr that has little to no production since hes been in the league playing with a qb that hasn't been able to get any production out of any WR not named CJ since hes been here. We paid Tate like a top FA WR and he hasn't proven to be a threat on the outside the way say an Emmanuel Sanders has....who also got a cheap deal and is a proven down field threat. Most of you agree WR is still one of our primary needs. So why would I get excited about a signing where it was considered our FA "splash" and yet is still our primary need? Go get Sanders for less money and fill some defensive holes would have been a better plan in my opinion.

Oh hughes. Clueless again. Both Tate and Sanders had 12 20+ yard plays last year. Also Sanders had 14 more targets but 148 less yards than Tate. Tate has better hands, gets better YAC and is just as good a deep threat.

And Sanders is 5 million per year but has a bigger cap number than Tate.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/emmanuel-sanders/

4, 5, 6 cap numbers, Tate is 3.1, 5.3,6.3 then the guaranteed money is low. Really 3 year deals for both.

 

[Mitchrapp]

who the fuck says "me positive"? an idiot....that's who lol....

That did make me laugh..

 

[tsmith7559]

Oh hughes. Clueless again. Both Tate and Sanders had 12 20+ yard plays last year. Also Sanders had 14 more targets but 148 less yards than Tate. Tate has better hands, gets better YAC and is just as good a deep threat.

And Sanders is 5 million per year but has a bigger cap number than Tate.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/emmanuel-sanders/

4, 5, 6 cap numbers, Tate is 3.1, 5.3,6.3 then the guaranteed money is low. Really 3 year deals for both.

idk..tate's ability to make the tough catch and yac yards must have been appealing to the lions, sanders, not so much

 

[tomdalton22]

Oh hughes. Clueless again. Both Tate and Sanders had 12 20+ yard plays last year. Also Sanders had 14 more targets but 148 less yards than Tate. Tate has better hands, gets better YAC and is just as good a deep threat.

And Sanders is 5 million per year but has a bigger cap number than Tate.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/emmanuel-sanders/

4, 5, 6 cap numbers, Tate is 3.1, 5.3,6.3 then the guaranteed money is low. Really 3 year deals for both.

who do you think will have better numbers next year. Tate or Sanders?

 

[sggatecl]

me positive

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