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SI ranks all 32 starting QB's. Stafford ranked.......

You guys can blame Stafford all you want. I just proved with all that bad support and injury stuff that you are wrong.

Can he make 2 better throws a game to get to 65% (this is the difference, two throws). Sure. But Stafford can also lplay elite when he gets the proper support.

The majority of incomplete are not Stafford's fault. One less drop a game, one more play with protection, one 3rd and 4 instead of a 3rd and 8, Calvin on the field one more crucial snap with Tate/Ebron producing against single coverage. This is how Stafford can increase comp % and TDs and lower ints.
 
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It's even more excessive against the Lions. Plus Bush was hurt after a good 2013. Plus the number 1 weapon is tripled some in Calvin and almost always doubled. Whereas guys like Jordy Nelson are barely doubled (stupidly I might add).

Lions have weapons to support Calvin finally. Tate was enough. Tate plus Ebron will be dangerous.

Average run support, top 10 protection, top 10 PPG defense, 3 good weapons. Lions can make a deep playoff run with Stafford getting that support.

With all that there are at least 20 QBs that could make a run deep in the playoffs..possibly more.
 
Run game, protection and healthy weapons. All QBs need that.
 
Average run support, top 10 protection, top 10 PPG defense, 3 good weapons. Any team can make a deep playoff run with even an average quarterback getting that support.

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I don't think Sanchez played enough to make the list. You found the point, there are a bunch of Jokers AHEAD of Stafford. Why? Because he is a joker too. Do you think teams are like oh no, we have to face Stafford, we could be in trouble. Hello no, they are excited because they like their chances. Basically the way you view Cutler is the way anyone who isn't a fan of the Lions see Stafford. You like your chances against him.

Bravo, man!!!! BRAVO!!!!! Way to deflect because your list is a joke lol. No defenses worry about Stafford...NONE!! You're such a tool lol.
 
Here is the list:

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Thank you.....just as I thought. I would take Stafford over at least 12 or 13 QBs on that list.

Hey, "A" for effort though, at least you tried
 
We all know stafford is awful in the pocket while facing pressure. So the sad fact of that chat is that he's sacked a relatively few amount of times and still puts up shitty numbers.
 
Thank you.....just as I thought. I would take Stafford over at least 12 or 13 QBs on that list.

Hey, "A" for effort though, at least you tried

Who you would "take" is irrelevant. The statistics provided show Stafford has under performed since 2011.

Based on age, potential, and raw talent I think most people would "take" Stafford over most QBs in the league. That shouldn't give him a free pass every year when he doesn't live up to the hype though.

Nobody is saying replace Stafford. They're saying he needs to step the fuck up.
 
Thank you.....just as I thought. I would take Stafford over at least 12 or 13 QBs on that list.

Hey, "A" for effort though, at least you tried

Good for you. You can have your opinion. Outside of RGIII because of Injury, can you honestly say our record would of been any worse the last 3 years with any of those guys on the list?

Stafford is in a group of guys that you could switch around and probably come out the same. I don't think we would of been any worse with Andy Dalton as our QB. However in my opinion I think we would of been a much better team with Drew Brees as our QB for example. Stafford just isn't a difference maker. He's in a group of guys that is just a whole bunch of average. Nothing special. I'm just pointing out statistically he is the worst, so we can stop pretending like he puts up unbelievable stats. All he does is put up numbers that go along with attempts. He throws the ball a bunch, that is about all you can say about Stafford. He is very inefficient at throwing the ball...everything backs that statement up.
 
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Bravo, man!!!! BRAVO!!!!! Way to deflect because your list is a joke lol. No defenses worry about Stafford...NONE!! You're such a tool lol.

Where did I say no defense's worry about him. I just said you like your chances against him. You obviously game plan for him, but why would you fear him. What has he done to make you think this guy can make all the throws to beat a team. 6 years and we are still talking about the potential the guy has. Throwing out all the ifs, if this, if he had that..etc.

You Tony are all about holding players accountable and stepping up and doing their job regardless of the situation. Well why not expect the same for Stafford? Why is there always an excuse for why this guy can't do his job at an elite or even an above average level?
 
Stafford has Josh Smith-syndrome right now. He's been in the league for awhile, and people still keep talking about how talented he is. That's not a good thing. When people talk about the best, they don't talk about their arm strength, intangibles, etc... They talk about how they win and make others around them better.

I think there's always excuse-making for Stafford because some people can't come to grips with the fact that he's just not that great. He's alright. And for me, that doesn't cut it. Like I said before, they should just sign an average QB and they'd be better off paying that person a lot less.
 
Here's the excerpt on Stafford from ESPN's QB Tier Rankings:

T-12. Matthew Stafford | Detroit Lions

Average rating: 2.17 | Change in rating: +8.9%

2014 Rank: 13

Stafford was the lowest-rated player to command a top-tier vote, but there were also eight third-tier grades from voters frustrated by the lingering gap between Stafford's physical gifts and his on-field performance. The two voters to give Stafford a 1 ranked first and seventh among easiest graders overall.

"No doubt, he is a 2 and I love him, but something is missing," a different offensive coach said. "Stafford could be like Aaron Rodgers if he had the burning passion and if he had Mike McCarthy from Day 1, because he is talented like that and quick with the ball. But you look at the look on Stafford's face before the game and then look at Rodgers' face or Big Ben's face or Luck's or especially Drew Brees' face or Philip Rivers' face. Holy s---, you look at Matthew Stafford's eyes and it's like gym class. It's like, 'I hope we win, I think we are pretty good' as opposed to, 'I am going to rip your throat out.' It is always the want-to and passion and desire that separates guys. Stafford should be there with Big Ben. Rivers is OK physically, but does it all by heart and leadership."

A GM touched on the same theme.

"Stafford is ahead of Andy Dalton and Alex Smith because he is more gifted, but there is an element where he is either about to become a 2 or he can fall into the Cutler category, not because of intangibles necessarily but because there is something missing. Even at Georgia, [in 2008] they had Stafford, they had Knowshon Moreno and A.J. Green. They were ranked No. 1 in the nation, and they finished with three losses. To me, that just defines things. You are in college football, you are a franchise QB, you have a really good college running back, an up-and-coming receiver and for whatever reason you could not lead your team to be ahead at the end of the big games."

The perception is that Stafford must discipline himself to be great. A personnel director said he'd rather have Flacco or Ryan.

"Stafford has a little of what Cutler has got," this director said. "He has mechanical things. He will throw it up for grabs. He is a 2. I don't know if he has internally what Flacco and Ryan have in terms of the will to be special. I see those guys working on their mechanics, which is huge for guys like Peyton and Brady. Stafford's mechanics have not changed."
 
Here's the excerpt on Stafford from ESPN's QB Tier Rankings:

T-12. Matthew Stafford | Detroit Lions

Average rating: 2.17 | Change in rating: +8.9%

2014 Rank: 13

Stafford was the lowest-rated player to command a top-tier vote, but there were also eight third-tier grades from voters frustrated by the lingering gap between Stafford's physical gifts and his on-field performance. The two voters to give Stafford a 1 ranked first and seventh among easiest graders overall.

"No doubt, he is a 2 and I love him, but something is missing," a different offensive coach said. "Stafford could be like Aaron Rodgers if he had the burning passion and if he had Mike McCarthy from Day 1, because he is talented like that and quick with the ball. But you look at the look on Stafford's face before the game and then look at Rodgers' face or Big Ben's face or Luck's or especially Drew Brees' face or Philip Rivers' face. Holy s---, you look at Matthew Stafford's eyes and it's like gym class. It's like, 'I hope we win, I think we are pretty good' as opposed to, 'I am going to rip your throat out.' It is always the want-to and passion and desire that separates guys. Stafford should be there with Big Ben. Rivers is OK physically, but does it all by heart and leadership."

A GM touched on the same theme.

"Stafford is ahead of Andy Dalton and Alex Smith because he is more gifted, but there is an element where he is either about to become a 2 or he can fall into the Cutler category, not because of intangibles necessarily but because there is something missing. Even at Georgia, [in 2008] they had Stafford, they had Knowshon Moreno and A.J. Green. They were ranked No. 1 in the nation, and they finished with three losses. To me, that just defines things. You are in college football, you are a franchise QB, you have a really good college running back, an up-and-coming receiver and for whatever reason you could not lead your team to be ahead at the end of the big games."

The perception is that Stafford must discipline himself to be great. A personnel director said he'd rather have Flacco or Ryan.

"Stafford has a little of what Cutler has got," this director said. "He has mechanical things. He will throw it up for grabs. He is a 2. I don't know if he has internally what Flacco and Ryan have in terms of the will to be special. I see those guys working on their mechanics, which is huge for guys like Peyton and Brady. Stafford's mechanics have not changed."

pretty good analysis
 
12th overall, solid tier two, flashes of talent, and notable bouts of poor decision making. That's pretty spot on. He's absolutely good enough to win with, but not so great that he can carry the team. Sounds like a solid guy to have on the team. Maybe not worth his contract, but I wouldn't trust finding someone better outside the top 15 picks in the draft (which is hopefully too high for our pick).
 
Lol. The look in his eyes. Rodgers is photo bombing and goofing off before games

Stafford gets Rodgers protection and four to five weapons most years he could have Rodgers production

In fact it did happen in 2011 with protection and healthy weapons.

Stafford is a low tier 1 qb. Has carried this team but way too much to carry in 2012 and 2013
 
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I would love to be in the Packers room when the lions called and offered to trade Rodgers for stafford. I mean since stafford can be just as productive as Rodgers in his situation, it would be a great deal for the packers since they could get same QB production at a cheaper rate. (Ignoring cap hits in the trade)

The laughter in that room would be something to see.
 
"No doubt, he is a 2 and I love him, but something is missing," a different offensive coach said. "Stafford could be like Aaron Rodgers if he had the burning passion and if he had Mike McCarthy from Day 1, because he is talented like that and quick with the ball.

This guy nailed it. The best thing that could have ever happened to Stafford would have been a trade like Farve or hit FA like Brees and land with a Holmgren or Payton level offensive coach.
 
12th overall, solid tier two, flashes of talent, and notable bouts of poor decision making. That's pretty spot on. He's absolutely good enough to win with, but not so great that he can carry the team. Sounds like a solid guy to have on the team. Maybe not worth his contract, but I wouldn't trust finding someone better outside the top 15 picks in the draft (which is hopefully too high for our pick).

It's not even solid tier two, it's bottom tier two. Received 4x the tier 3 votes as tier 1. Even our biggest slap LKP describes him as a tier 3.

" tier 3 are quarterbacks who are good enough to start but need lots of support"

That is LKPs every argent. He needs a top 10 oline, defense, running game and 4 elite weapons to be successful. That is tier 3.
 
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