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SI ranks all 32 starting QB's. Stafford ranked.......
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I think he was saying it was the backups causing "many" of those turnovers. But that was proven wrong so he is cowering in a corner of the basement somewhere trying to figure out a way to respond.......because, as he has pointed out numerous times......he is NEVER wrong!!!!
It was not proven wrong. Many intended for Durham, other backups WRs and backup TEs. Also backup Oline getting beat, causing pressure, causing ints.
Then the fluke turnover drops off Calvin's hands, Pettigrew ducking etc.
Many of the ints aren't Stafford's fault. Many of the turnovers are from backup players being the issue. Some is Calvin, some is Bush, some is Pettigrew.
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BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
It's so fun to laugh at you. You're such an idiot!!
91% on the starters.
FACTS......little one......FACTS!!!!
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2 to Durham, 1 to Ross, 1 to Patrick Edwards, 2 to Fauria in 2013. All backups. 9 to Calvin and he had bum fingers (see Bucs pick). Backups not getting open, you have to force to Calvin then. Even if Calvin intended, it could be the backups fault.
1 to Pettigrew (ducks), 1 to Bush (fluke) and 2 to Burleson (pressure on one)
1 to Pettigrew (ducks), 1 to Bush (fluke) and 2 to Burleson (pressure on one)
Backups not getting open causes forces to Calvin. 2013 Calvin had injured fingers and knee. You have no context once again to your stats. You are the idiot.
We've shown guys get wide open, but the correct read according to you is the 1 on 1 covered guy or the triple covered Calvin, or throwing through the back of a defender trying to get it to pettigrew.
The no one on this team gets open excuse has been debunked.
6 of 19. Plus Calvin hurt. 31% in 2013
8 of 16. 50% in 2012.
And then you have the pressure from backup Oline allowed, you have backup weapons not getting open causing forces to good WRs.
3 to Fuller and 1 to Jordan Thompson in 2014. 33% of his picks to backups.
8 of 16. 50% in 2012.
And then you have the pressure from backup Oline allowed, you have backup weapons not getting open causing forces to good WRs.
3 to Fuller and 1 to Jordan Thompson in 2014. 33% of his picks to backups.
No. The correct read is going threw progression. Stafford never threw to double coverage in those scenarios. Calvin was doubled. Ebron was singled. You go to the singled especially if Ebron is first in the progression.
6 of 19. Plus Calvin hurt. 31% in 2013
8 of 16. 50% in 2012.
And then you have the pressure from backup Oline allowed, you have backup weapons not getting open causing forces to good WRs.
3 to Fuller and 1 to Jordan Thompson in 2014. 33% of his picks to backups.
Reynolds/Lucas caused pressure. There has been regression allowing pressure by Peterman in 2012 and Sims/Raiola in 2014. Those were quickly fixed by Mayhew with Warford and now Laken/Man Ram and Swanson development.
Plus the whole first year in the system and only 12 picks. Great job Stafford.
Plus the fact Stafford has to throw more because we actually rely on him unlike the Russel Wilsons' and 2014 Tony Romos'. More attempts means more int opps for other teams.
Stafford is a good QB, borderline great. Everything is aligning perfectly this year. Year 2, more reliable weapons, better run game and proteciton.
8 of 16. 50% in 2012.
And then you have the pressure from backup Oline allowed, you have backup weapons not getting open causing forces to good WRs.
3 to Fuller and 1 to Jordan Thompson in 2014. 33% of his picks to backups.
Reynolds/Lucas caused pressure. There has been regression allowing pressure by Peterman in 2012 and Sims/Raiola in 2014. Those were quickly fixed by Mayhew with Warford and now Laken/Man Ram and Swanson development.
Plus the whole first year in the system and only 12 picks. Great job Stafford.
Plus the fact Stafford has to throw more because we actually rely on him unlike the Russel Wilsons' and 2014 Tony Romos'. More attempts means more int opps for other teams.
Stafford is a good QB, borderline great. Everything is aligning perfectly this year. Year 2, more reliable weapons, better run game and proteciton.
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Pressured less than the league average in 2014. So again not a true statement.
Lets look at bad throw %:
Drew Stanton-20.42%
Brian Hoyer-20.09%
Cam Newton-20.09%
Matthew Stafford-19.77%
Stafford was the 4th worst. The 2nd worst among players who are regular Starters. 1 out of every 5 passes are simply poor.
Best - Drew Brees - 8.95%
Stafford was pressured 31.9%. Very high pressure in 2014.
Pressure on one snap can lead to one pick. If you actually look at the game tape, you can see when pressure causes picks. But no. You people just blindly assume it's Stafford for every pick.
Pressure on one snap can lead to one pick. If you actually look at the game tape, you can see when pressure causes picks. But no. You people just blindly assume it's Stafford for every pick.
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18/48. 37.5% intended for backups.
Many others because backups couldn't get open. Some flukes. Some great plays by defenses (Grimes pick for instance). Some due to attempt volume. Some due to pressure.
Stafford is great at protecting the football. He's a borderline elite QB. And now is in year 2 of the system with weapons a run game and better protection.
Top 5 offense for Detroit.
THE STATS ON STAFFORD LIE. The QB rating ,ints and comp %. LIES
Many others because backups couldn't get open. Some flukes. Some great plays by defenses (Grimes pick for instance). Some due to attempt volume. Some due to pressure.
Stafford is great at protecting the football. He's a borderline elite QB. And now is in year 2 of the system with weapons a run game and better protection.
Top 5 offense for Detroit.
THE STATS ON STAFFORD LIE. The QB rating ,ints and comp %. LIES
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Right and the league average was 33.8% so below average. Not "very high". Pressure can also be a result of the QB not making quick correct decisions.
Pressure can lead to poor play, but it is completely controllable by the QB (the result after the pressure comes). Being poor at handling pressure is a negative. This is what separates average and great QBs.
Pressure on every Stafford pick was not Stafford's fault. You are insane to think Stafford causes pressure. Stafford makes good quick decisions. Stafford is good overall against pressure, but some picks were caused by pressure.
And like I said, it only takes one pressure to cause one int. 31.9% of the time is a problem.
Stafford's pressure % was high. Weapons were hurt. Some great plays were made (Grimes). We are talking about 12 ints. 5 his fault. On 600 attempts that is a great job.
Pressure caused incompletes. Injured weapons caused incompletes. New system caused incompletes. Talented starters playing bad for a play can cause an incomplete (for instacne Calvin and Tate were blanketed against Pats, Cards and Packers). I put those losses on Calvin and Tate and the other weapons not beating single coverage more than Stafford. the picks against the Cards/Pats were not Stafford's fault however. Nobody open on 3rd and long and you go deep to Calvin. Pressure allowed against Pats.
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