SI ranks all 32 starting QB's. Stafford ranked.......

[dubbsco]

We already covered the drops. The difference between the top team and the bottom team in terms of overall drops is like 1-1.5 a game. It's such an inconsequential stat from the best to the worst.

 

[LKP]

It wasn't just drops. It was drops, run support and pressure %. It accounted for 4%. Difference in comp % is 4% between Stafford and Brady.

3 drops in the endzone by Stafford against Pats is not inconsequential. Turns a poor QB rating day into a good one and a much closer game.

 

[brewer229]

Gray 4.6, Vereen 4.1 and Blount 4.7. Brady is the one who couldn't run 1.6 YPC.

Over 4 YPC run support. Solid run support for Pats.

Lions had 3.6 YPC total.

Also Brady well protected. 28.7% under pressure. Stafford 31.9%. there is a 3.2% in completion % right there. 21 sacks of Brady, 45 of Stafford. Drive killing sacks.

Drop Stafford 6%, Brady 5.5%. Another .5% point.

Brady had better protection, run support and better drop support. Pats defense was top 10. Gronk is a beast. Edleman and Amendola are good slot guys for easy catches. Lafell is a 2nd round pick.

Brady lost at Lambeau. And got beat by good defenses in at KC, Buffalo at home and at Miami.

These are opinion Stats. This site list Stafford pressure at 20.8% 7th lowest pressure. Brady at 22.5% 13th. So Brady faced more pressure than Stafford. 1.7% increase for Brady. Also Stafford being one of the worst QBs dealing with pressure is not going to stop teams from pressuring him.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/2014-pressure-plays-quarterbacks

LKP loses again. Posting nonsense. 22nd out of 22 in QB rating is fact. Every site would give you the same result. He was the worst QB in the last 3 years that saw significant playing time.

 

[LKP]

Stafford faced over 30% pressure. The game tape shows that. Football outsiders is a joke saying Stafford only had 20.8% pressure. Burn that site to the ground.

Stafford 88 3rd and 8 or longer. Rodgers 56, Brady 61

If stafford only had 56 3rd and 8s or longer, his completions % would be mid 60s too.

Oline is fixed, run game will be better. Stafford is going to have a great year.

 

[dubbsco]

Can't wait. Going to be magical.

 

[brewer229]

Stafford faced over 30% pressure. The game tape shows that. Football outsiders is a joke saying Stafford only had 20.8% pressure. Burn that site to the ground.

Stafford 88 3rd and 8 or longer. Rodgers 56, Brady 61

If stafford only had 56 3rd and 8s or longer, his completions % would be mid 60s too.

Oline is fixed, run game will be better. Stafford is going to have a great year.

If his completition % was in the 60s he would have more 3 and 8s and less.

Stafford on 1st down: 60.2% 82.2 Rating
Rodgers on 1st down: 67.8% 105.8 Rating
Brady on 1st down: 65.7% 94.1 Rating

 

[Mitchrapp]

Can't wait. Going to be magical.

 

[LKP]

If his completition % was in the 60s he would have more 3 and 8s and less.

Stafford on 1st down: 60.2% 82.2 Rating
Rodgers on 1st down: 67.8% 105.8 Rating
Brady on 1st down: 65.7% 94.1 Rating

Again pressure and drops. Both those QBs are entrenched in their systems too. Teams actually fear their run game and look for the run on 1st down too.

 

[LKP]

139/207 Rodgers
123/208 Stafford

It's 16 completions on the year. 1 per game. This is due to pressure and drops and teams not respecting Detroit's run at all. They play the pass on first down against Detroit. they play the run against GB/Pats.

 

[Mitchrapp]

1 per game..woo hoo. After calculating and we calculating, let see carry the one - compute..yep, exactly what I thought, Matt Stafford is still no good.

 

[tomdalton22]

Again pressure and drops. Both those QBs are entrenched in their systems too. Teams actually fear their run game and look for the run on 1st down too.

Teams actually fear their run games? LOL!

 

[LKP]

Teams actually fear their run games? LOL!

Lacy is a stud and Pats can run the ball on first with their RB committee. They both can run block and pass block. Detroit can too with some health and the upgrades at LG/C that were made.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Matt Stafford apesta, Matt Stafford puzza, Мэтт Стаффорд воняет.

In Spanish, Italian and Russian - I particular like the Russian one.

 

[brewer229]

Again pressure and drops. Both those QBs are entrenched in their systems too. Teams actually fear their run game and look for the run on 1st down too.

Again one site shows Brady faces more pressure. Rodgers face .6% less than Stafford. That is the one published site that has been posted. Otherwise it could just be you making up numbers.

So pressure is out. Drops:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-receiver-drops-percentage/2014/

Packers .4% higher drops than Lions, Patriots .4 Lower than Lions. Again site posted shows that. Not some imaginary number you claim. Regardless shows inaccuracy of these "stats" if there is differences.

So overall we can deduct .2 from Rodgers at most. Then it is a level playing system.

LKP loses again. 22nd out of 22nd is the proven fact. Guy is worst full time QB in the league.

 

[LKP]

Again one site shows Brady faces more pressure. Rodgers face .6% less than Stafford. That is the one published site that has been posted. Otherwise it could just be you making up numbers.

So pressure is out. Drops:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-receiver-drops-percentage/2014/

Packers .4% higher drops than Lions, Patriots .4 Lower than Lions. Again site posted shows that. Not some imaginary number you claim. Regardless shows inaccuracy of these "stats" if there is differences.

So overall we can deduct .2 from Rodgers at most. Then it is a level playing system.

LKP loses again. 22nd out of 22nd is the proven fact. Guy is worst full time QB in the league.

Stafford has more drops and pressure and less run support. PFF is the site. Not these joke sites you are using.

Stafford is a good QB. He has alot to overcome due to the Oline, weapons and Bush injuries last year. Plus first year of offense.

Stafford will have a huge season this year. close to 5,000 yards, 35 Tds and 12 ints.

And PRESSURE is not out.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Again one site shows Brady faces more pressure. Rodgers face .6% less than Stafford. That is the one published site that has been posted. Otherwise it could just be you making up numbers.

So pressure is out. Drops:
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-receiver-drops-percentage/2014/

Packers .4% higher drops than Lions, Patriots .4 Lower than Lions. Again site posted shows that. Not some imaginary number you claim. Regardless shows inaccuracy of these "stats" if there is differences.

So overall we can deduct .2 from Rodgers at most. Then it is a level playing system.

LKP loses again. 22nd out of 22nd is the proven fact. Guy is worst full time QB in the league.

 

[dubbsco]

I'm sorry, I don't care how new the system is, when you are a 6 year veteran there shouldn't be a huge learning curve.

By the way, wasn't there a quote during the middle of the season by Lombardi that they were actually "dumbing down" the playbook?

 

[brewer229]

Stafford has more drops and pressure and less run support. PFF is the site. Not these joke sites you are using.

Stafford is a good QB. He has alot to overcome due to the Oline, weapons and Bush injuries last year. Plus first year of offense.

Stafford will have a huge season this year. close to 5,000 yards, 35 Tds and 12 ints.

And PRESSURE is not out.

Post some stats. Screenshot. What is Staffords PFF passer grade for 2014? If it is the site and all?

Stafford faced less pressure but is way worse at dealing with it. 3 years levels the playing field, gets rid of all possible luck factors. You are what you are in 3 years.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm sorry, I don't care how new the system is, when you are a 6 year veteran there shouldn't be a huge learning curve.

By the way, wasn't there a quote during the middle of the season by Lombardi that they were actually "dumbing down" the playbook?

I believe Caldwell mentioned it twice. Our dummy QB still couldn't produce. If our last management has anything to say Matt is not so good after time..

 

[LKP]

Stafford faced more pressure. And more drops. and has the worst run support.

He should have been MVP for his 2014 performance.

Rodgers had all day to throw and Lacy making it 3rd and short. Not impressive.