Stafford on new coach hunt

[mhughes0021]

breaking news on the ticker....mayhew has just finished youtubing all the potential candidates.....he thinks hes ready to start fielding calls to potential candidates. Maybe by February we will have a coach at this rate.

 

[tonyballs]

Defense would be fine if the offense would give them a break.

Oh, ok ....lol

 

[kmd47]

Defense would be fine if the offense would give them a break.

Yeah Houston for sure needed more breaks seeing as how he was always getting burned and all those tackles we missed, man you're a genius. Just run the ball every down eat that clock up and then the defense will never have to play.

 

[kdp80]

Yeah Houston for sure needed more breaks seeing as how he was always getting burned and all those tackles we missed, man you're a genius. Just run the ball every down eat that clock up and then the defense will never have to play.

Houston can hit the road for all I care. The secondary was better in his absence.

 

[zyxt9]

ToP can be a bit deceiving though. Obviously there are the turnovers, but even more importantly is how the games were managed. Through 3 quarters, they managed the game well, but the 4th quarter everything fell apart. Why? It is one thing to have the ToP advantage through the entire game overall, and entirely different thing to keep the ball and have sustained drives that kill the clock at the end of the game, or even better, drives that result in TDs at the end of the game when already leading. How many times prior to the D giving up the lead did the O fail to drive the ball down the field and finish the game off? How many of those drives were 3 and outs or under 6 plays total, assuming they managed a 1st down and then had to punt on next set of downs? How much time ran off the clock during those drives? Obviously there were the TOs that ended a few of those drives as well, but the O needed to finish the game when given those opportunities instead of asking the D to hold. Should the D have to hold every single game? No, with as prolific as the O was through 3 quarters, there is zero reason the O was not able to drive down and finish the game off. Why can't they ever go up 2 or more possessions when it matters most?????? Not saying they need to do that every game, but neither should anyone expect the D to hold onto the lead every game. All that has to happen is for each side to win a reasonable number of those games and the Lions would have had 10+ wins. Instead, the O gets conservative and the D goes into Prevent mode and the end result time and time again is another tick in the L column. It is a disgusting way to lose even once, but to do it week after week is stupidity.

 

[zyxt9]

And it isn't just going 3 and out, it is going 3 and out by throwing incompletions or running the ball out of bounds when staying in helps kill the clock. How many short passes did Staff throw incomplete? I'd rather he take a sack then throw a short incompletion. There is a degree to which being slightly more conservative is ok, by throwing short 5 and under yard passes that are easily caught and not overthrown or wildly missed. If the D is keying run, and being overly aggressive because it is the end of the game and they need to make key stops, there are counters, screens, and other plays that help make the D's aggressiveness a liability for them. Stafford has to recognize the D and accurately adjust the play at the LoS, but he seems incapable, or Linehan restricted him from doing so.

 

[LKP]

And it isn't just going 3 and out, it is going 3 and out by throwing incompletions or running the ball out of bounds when staying in helps kill the clock. How many short passes did Staff throw incomplete? I'd rather he take a sack then throw a short incompletion. There is a degree to which being slightly more conservative is ok, by throwing short 5 and under yard passes that are easily caught and not overthrown or wildly missed. If the D is keying run, and being overly aggressive because it is the end of the game and they need to make key stops, there are counters, screens, and other plays that help make the D's aggressiveness a liability for them. Stafford has to recognize the D and accurately adjust the play at the LoS, but he seems incapable, or Linehan restricted him from doing so.

Lions ran a ton of screens. You have no clue what adjustments Stafford did or didn't make. See the target stats to our two RBs.

 

[brewer229]

I'm sick of the excuses for Stafford. 1st it was he is young, then it was he didn't have an Oline, he didn't have a run game, they addressed all those issues, now it's not enough talent at WR and to many drops.

If everything around him needs to be above average to elite around him, maybe he is not the guy.

Eric Decker was at best average before manning, same with D. Thomas, J. Thomas was endangered of losing his job. Now with manning they produce at a very high level.

 

[LKP]

Deckers is much better than Durham and J. Thomas is much faster than Pettigrew. Plus D.Thomas is defended differently than Calvin (less doubles). Players can emerge when given a chance. Thomas and Decker didn't have much of a chance with Tebow. And Decker didn't miss 7 games like Burleson did.


Stafford can improve (footwork leading to accuracy) but he did produce, 31 TDs (29 and 2 rushing) and played a big part in most of the 13 other rushing TD drives.


26.6 PPG with Calvin. 11 PPG without in 2 games. 14 PPG without Bush (not counting the special teams TDs Ross scored).


Thomas did not miss 2 games or was limited in 2 like Calvin. Decker did not miss 7 games like Burleson. J. Thomas didn't miss 2 games. Did the Broncos number 3 miss 9 games? Did Moreno get hurt? Don't think so.

 

[mhughes0021]

Deckers is much better than Durham and J. Thomas is much faster than Pettigrew. Plus D.Thomas is defended differently than Calvin (less doubles). Players can emerge when given a chance. Thomas and Decker didn't have much of a chance with Tebow. And Decker didn't miss 7 games like Burleson did.


Stafford can improve (footwork leading to accuracy) but he did produce, 31 TDs (29 and 2 rushing) and played a big part in most of the 13 other rushing TD drives.


26.6 PPG with Calvin. 11 PPG without in 2 games. 14 PPG without Bush (not counting the special teams TDs Ross scored).


Thomas did not miss 2 games or was limited in 2 like Calvin. Decker did not miss 7 games like Burleson. J. Thomas didn't miss 2 games. Did the Broncos number 3 miss 9 games? Did Moreno get hurt? Don't think so.

Moreno was hurt. J Thomas missed more than 2 games. welker missed a bunch of games with 2 concussions. D Thomas was limited in 2 games. Peyton set a single game scoring record....staff shit the bed. Lets never try to compare staff and peyton again please lol.

 

[LKP]

Thomas and Decker didn't. So Lions still had more. Moreno was not hurt. Played in every game. So his number 3 got hurt but it looks like Welker played 13 games. So nowhere close to Broyles. Thomas missed 2. They lost one of those games.


Lions had more injuries. Get back to me when Decker misses 7 and Thomas misses 2 and is limited in 2. And Moreno misses 2.5 games.


Stafford produced with his weapons. Not at Mannings level but plenty of production. Nobody has ever done Mannings level.

 

[cheeno]

The only Manning Stafford should be compared to is Eli, or maybe the one who sells insurance.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I bet Eli is a better rapper. Football on your phone, uh huh.. yeah.

 

[cheeno]

I bet Eli is a better rapper. Football on your phone, uh huh.. yeah.

That is true.

 

[zyxt9]

Stafford has made ok commercials, but he isn't nearly as good as Mannings in that regard, tho the one where he has the party for best player fizzle due to AR topping it on Monday night was damn good.