Suh looks terrible.

[Mitchrapp]

Not the CBA? Really? What would his salary, and in turn his franchise tag have been on the new CBA?

Every GM dealt with it.......but not every GM had to deal with that many top 2 picks. Something had to give.

Wait until his contract is up and then either resign him (too much) or let him go. Restructuring that much is not healthy for a franchise. That's why it's done rarely.

If Suh's contract had never been restructured, his salary cap figure in 2014 would have been just $16.1 million. That would have made Suh's franchise tag salary much more reasonable (~$19.3 million). We had to pay him near 10m anyway and he's not even here.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Wait until his contract is up and then either resign him (too much) or let him go. Restructuring that much is not healthy for a franchise. That's why it's done rarely.

If Suh's contract had never been restructured, his salary cap figure in 2014 would have been just $16.1 million. That would have made Suh's franchise tag salary much more reasonable (~$19.3 million). We had to pay him near 10m anyway and he's not even here.

Though you completely ignore my points and cherry pick the topic.....I'll play along. Nobody said it was healthy.....but it was almost unavoidable. What other franchise had to deal with a cap situation like the Lions did with the old CBA deals of CJ, Stafford and Suh?

None. So of course it doesn't happen often. However, without the restructures we don't land anyone worth a shit in FA. Mayhew tried and failed. But, like I said, I don't mind the effort.

 

[biggunsbob]

I heard on the radio that Carolina had some real bad cap issues a few years back and they figured it out but sadly nothing seems as bad as our deals from our inept owners..

 

[Mitchrapp]

Though you completely ignore my points and cherry pick the topic.....I'll play along. Nobody said it was healthy.....but it was almost unavoidable. What other franchise had to deal with a cap situation like the Lions did with the old CBA deals of CJ, Stafford and Suh?

None. So of course it doesn't happen often. However, without the restructures we don't land anyone worth a shit in FA. Mayhew tried and failed. But, like I said, I don't mind the effort.

I just told you. Don't renegotiate twice, back to back years. You said it yourself, able to get FA didn't help. And yes it matters that his re-negotiations amounted to nothing. That's the reason to do it, to get better. Mayhew failed.

Twice.

 

[Mitchrapp]

And as far as 3 high priced players. No one said they had to keep negotiating all 3. 7 years now and we still blame the CBA.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

And as far as 3 high priced players. No one said they had to keep negotiating all 3. 7 years now and we still blame the CBA.

Wow. You really just don't get it. Renegotiating was absolutely necessary.

I'm sure you would have been ok with Mayhew taking over an 0-16 train wreck and not making any FA moves?? Lol.....my guess is no.

Who cares how long it's been.....Suh's contract issues with the Lions were very much affected by the old CBA.....it's not hard to understand that.

For all of Mayhews failures.....and there were a lot......people forget he took an 0-16 team to the playoffs in 3 years! That's fuckin impressive. Suh's renagotiations had something to do with that! Everything after that......well....that's another discussion.

 

[cheeno]

How did renegotiating Suh's contract help them reach the playoffs in 2011? It was his second year in the league. Mayhew's cap management was a joke. Lewands contract negotiation must be looking at how high the previous top of the position is paid and then tripling it. And they always backload the contract so we are either hit with a huge cap number or dead money. Calvin, whose current contract has nothing to do with the one he's drafted gives us the option to keep him at $24 million, drop him and eat $13, or restructure for more pain down the road. Levy is the highest paid 4-3 OLB in the league. He'll be next. He was drafted in the third round. Drafting high had little to do with the moves the guy made after, all bad.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Wow. You really just don't get it. Renegotiating was absolutely necessary.

I'm sure you would have been ok with Mayhew taking over an 0-16 train wreck and not making any FA moves?? Lol.....my guess is no.

Who cares how long it's been.....Suh's contract issues with the Lions were very much affected by the old CBA.....it's not hard to understand that.

For all of Mayhews failures.....and there were a lot......people forget he took an 0-16 team to the playoffs in 3 years! That's fuckin impressive. Suh's renagotiations had something to do with that! Everything after that......well....that's another discussion.

No it wasn't. We still had Suh for 5 years regardless. You can't renegotiate so many times for 3 guys. It catches up..

We made the playoff's in 2011, how did Suh's 2012 and 2013 re-negotiations help them make the playoffs?