suh suspended

[tigermud]

As much as some of you hate the NFL...you should just quit watching it.

Agree with as much as you hate the lions you shouldn't watch Sunday either

 

[Mitchrapp]

Apparently two times the NFL thought it was intentional. I have a problem with the fine. If he didn't do it on purpose why the fine?

 

[tomdalton22]

Agree with as much as you hate the lions you shouldn't watch Sunday either

Sometimes I watch...sometimes I don't. Not a huge deal to me either way.

 

[manchild98]

Apparently two times the NFL thought it was intentional. I have a problem with the fine. If he didn't do it on purpose why the fine?

Maybe it's like getting a parking ticket for letting the meter run out...maybe you let it run out on purpose, maybe you didn't...but here's your fine anyways as a reminder to not do it again.

 

[inkfreq]

Clearly the arbitrator doesn't agree with me. He felt it was intentional, but not bad enough to warrant a suspension.

Remember, Suh's "repeat offender" status was dropped after week 16 because it had been 32 games since an infraction, so anything he did in the past could not be considered per the CBA.

Whether or not Cotrell felt it was intentional, I feel it was not.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Maybe it's like getting a parking ticket for letting the meter run out...maybe you let it run out on purpose, maybe you didn't...but here's your fine anyways as a reminder to not do it again.

So throwing the red flag..no indisputable evidence? lol.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Clearly the arbitrator doesn't agree with me. He felt it was intentional, but not bad enough to warrant a suspension.

Remember, Suh's "repeat offender" status was dropped after week 16 because it had been 32 games since an infraction, so anything he did in the past could not be considered per the CBA.

Whether or not Cotrell felt it was intentional, I feel it was not.

You still on medicine? Btw, how's your health?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Apparently two times the NFL thought it was intentional. I have a problem with the fine. If he didn't do it on purpose why the fine?

If a person gets pulled over for going 15 mph over the speed limit, that person is going to get a certain penalty.

If a person is pulled over for going 30 mph over the speed limit, they're going to get a different penalty.

In both cases, the person is doing it on purpose.

This was a 15 mph violation, that deserved a 15 mph penalty, not a 30 mph penalty.

 

[manchild98]

So throwing the red flag..no indisputable evidence? lol.

Pretty much. We all know what really happened, but this play isn't reviewable.

 

[inkfreq]

You still on medicine? Btw, how's your health?

Nope, I'm off the meds. Doing as well as I can.. I can still wipe my own ass without help, so all things considered, I am a happy guy.

I don't think it was intentional. His actions don't show a man, in my opinion, who even realized it happened.

The assumption is that these guys would have to realize that the gorun just became uneven beneath them, and that they were stepping ON something. But that's really not the case.

A football field, be it pro, college, or high school, is rarely a level ground. It's got divots chewed up by cleats, small hills, pits, valleys... and as the game goes on, the turf gets worse and worse. Anyone who played football knows that.

Hell, back in highschool, I rolled my ankle four different times just walking back to the line of scrimmage.

Suh showed no reaction at all there. He just didn't even realize he stepped on someone, instead of out of a hole, onto a small hill in the turf, etc... I just don't buy it looking at the way he reacts to the entire play and what followed.

Have someone push you backwards and watch your natural reaction. You won't even be able to stop it knowing it's coming and trying to prevent it. You will take half steps backwards to catch your balance. It's an unstoppable reflex condition.

Suh was pushed back into Rodgers by Lang, and his second foot takes the half step to catch his balance. He has no idea where Rodgers was, unless Suh somehow has eyes in his ass crack to see low and behind him, and stepped back forwards towards to play like he has on every single play ever.

It's nearly impossible for me to imagine a man off-balance from being shoved backwards being able to accurate aim his foot at a man's ankle, which is not a large target, without ever looking back and down at that man. It makes zero sense.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I think that's why there's a disagreement. IMO, how do you not realize you step on someone? In any event when I picked his foot, putting more weight on the ankle, his second step was the guilt part. I don't see a shove btw. Either way, water under the bridge..he's an embarrassment and can't wait until he's gone.

 

[Mitchrapp]

In fact if you look at it closely, Lang was grabbing Suh. He wasn't off balance and certainly wasn't shoved.

 

[inkfreq]

I think that's why there's a disagreement. IMO, how do you not realize you step on someone? In any event when I picked his foot, putting more weight on the ankle, his second step was the guilt part. I don't see a shove btw. Either way, water under the bridge..he's an embarrassment and can't wait until he's gone.

You don't have cats do you?

It's impossible not to step on the little bastards, roughly the size of an ankle to a thigh (depending on the cat). They get right under your feet.

And 99% of the time, you would never even realize you stepped on them on nice even ground, until you hear them meow in pain.

Happens at least three times a week to me.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You don't have cats do you?

It's impossible not to step on the little bastards, roughly the size of an ankle to a thigh (depending on the cat). They get right under your feet.

And 99% of the time, you would never even realize you stepped on them on nice even ground, until you hear them meow in pain.

Happens at least three times a week to me.

A cat? That when stepped o get gets pushed to the ground. A QB's ankle, bone. It doesn't react the same.

 

[lucke]

In fact if you look at it closely, Lang was grabbing Suh. He wasn't off balance and certainly wasn't shoved.

right, as i said earlier, Lang was pulling Suh, who was going backwards. Lang let go and Suh's momentum from already going backwards, was multiplied, almost to the point of a push.

 

[Mitchrapp]

right, as i said earlier, Lang was pulling Suh, who was going backwards. Lang let go and Suh's momentum from already going backwards, was multiplied, almost to the point of a push.

But he wasn't let go, he was not off balance and the 2nd step shows that. Even the arbitration thought it was intentional, based on the fine, just not malicious.

 

[mhughes0021]

Do you and LKP always have to be on opposite sides...I mean the one time he's bemoaning a Lion's actions you're there to take the opposite side.

nah...I just always take the correct side. Which yet again exactly what I said was going to happen, happened. LKP always likes to take the wrong side.

 

[mhughes0021]

I still think it was the wrong decision because of the fine. I don't see it as intentional. I know many here will disagree, and many will agree. I just don't buy it.

stepping on him...not intentional.

using full weight to step on him again....probably intentional.

neither of which should be a suspension. The open handed slap to the face by GB should be a suspension before either of the 2 steps suh took.

 

[tomdalton22]

stepping on him...not intentional.

using full weight to step on him again....probably intentional.

neither of which should be a suspension. The open handed slap to the face by GB should be a suspension before either of the 2 steps suh took.

what open hand slap are you talking about?

 

[Thumb]

Come on, the slap drew a flag, and was not intentional as a slap, he was trying to swat the pass down.

You can't realistically compare the two actions.