The All-Board Team (Since 1969)

[tycobb420]

Catcher: Johnny Bench
1b: Albert Pujols
2b: Lou Whitaker
3b: Mike Schmidt
SS: Cal Ripken
LF: Rickey Henderson
CF: Ken Griffey Jr.
RF: Reggie Jackson
DH: Frank Thomas
RHP: Pedro Martinez
LHP: Randy Johnson
REL: Rollie Fingers
Closer: Mariano Rivera

 

[Thumb]

Solid list.

 

[kalinecountry]

Catcher: Johnny Bench
1b: Albert Pujols
2b: Lou Whitaker
3b: Mike Schmidt
SS: Cal Ripken
LF: Rickey Henderson
CF: Ken Griffey Jr.
RF: Reggie Jackson
DH: Frank Thomas
RHP: Pedro Martinez
LHP: Randy Johnson
REL: Rollie Fingers
Closer: Mariano Rivera

Lineup:
1. LF Rickey
2. 2B Whitaker
3. 1B Pujols
4. DH Thomas
5. CF Junior
6. RF Reggie
7. 3B Schmidt
8. SS Ripken
9. C Bench

what do you think? good, or something diferent?

 

[hellifino]

KalineCountry[/color]]

Catcher: Johnny Bench
1b: Albert Pujols
2b: Lou Whitaker
3b: Mike Schmidt
SS: Omar Visquel
LF: Rickey Henderson
CF: Ken Griffey Jr.
RF: Reggie Jackson
DH: Frank Thomas
RHP: Pedro Martinez
LHP: Randy Johnson
REL: Rollie Fingers
Closer: Mariano Rivera

Lineup:
1. LF Rickey
2. 2B Whitaker
3. 1B Pujols
4. DH Thomas
5. CF Junior
6. RF Reggie
7. 3B Schmidt
8. SS Omar Visquel
9. C Bench

what do you think? good, or something diferent?

fixed lol

 

[tycobb420]

KalineCountry[/color]]

Catcher: Johnny Bench
1b: Albert Pujols
2b: Lou Whitaker
3b: Mike Schmidt
SS: Cal Ripken
LF: Rickey Henderson
CF: Ken Griffey Jr.
RF: Reggie Jackson
DH: Frank Thomas
RHP: Pedro Martinez
LHP: Randy Johnson
REL: Rollie Fingers
Closer: Mariano Rivera

Lineup:
1. LF Rickey
2. 2B Whitaker
3. 1B Pujols
4. DH Thomas
5. CF Junior
6. RF Reggie
7. 3B Schmidt
8. SS Ripken
9. C Bench

what do you think? good, or something diferent?

I might put Reggie or Junior 4th, Frank or Schmidt 5th, then Junior or Reggie to break the righties and lefties up.

 

[kalinecountry]

KalineCountry[/color]]

Lineup:
1. LF Rickey
2. 2B Whitaker
3. 1B Pujols
4. DH Thomas
5. CF Junior
6. RF Reggie
7. 3B Schmidt
8. SS Omar Visquel
9. C Bench

what do you think? good, or something diferent?

fixed lol

hellifino, you are quite the character, lol.
I will go on record and say omar vizquel will eventually get in the HOF.
Hopefully Trammell and Lou will get in eventually too.

 

[kalinecountry]

KalineCountry[/color]]

Lineup:
1. LF Rickey
2. 2B Whitaker
3. 1B Pujols
4. DH Thomas
5. CF Junior
6. RF Reggie
7. 3B Schmidt
8. SS Ripken
9. C Bench

what do you think? good, or something diferent?

I might put Reggie or Junior 4th, Frank or Schmidt 5th, then Junior or Reggie to break the righties and lefties up.

I can see that, I just looked at their triple slash lines and Reggie's higher amount of strikeouts and felt better with him at the 6 spot.

 

[hellifino]

KalineCountry[/color]]

fixed lol

hellifino, you are quite the character, lol.
I will go on record and say omar vizquel will eventually get in the HOF.
Hopefully Trammell and Lou will get in eventually too.

it'd be nice to see both Tramm and Lou get in, if not maybe they should go in as the best SS/2B Combination ever.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Cal Ripken to me in that list sticks out like a sore thumb. Rather have Bonds than Frank Thomas

 

[beez]

Griffey getting fastball...BAM!

 

[tycobb420]

KalineCountry[/color]]

I might put Reggie or Junior 4th, Frank or Schmidt 5th, then Junior or Reggie to break the righties and lefties up.

I can see that, I just looked at their triple slash lines and Reggie's higher amount of strikeouts and felt better with him at the 6 spot.

Unless it's the postseason! Then Reggie has to go #4!

 

[tycobb420]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Cal Ripken to me in that list sticks out like a sore thumb. Rather have Bonds than Frank Thomas

Bonds was not a DH.

 

[chrisinthed]

Speaking of postseason, the next poll ought to be all-postseason by position. Might take a bit of digging, but we could come up with pretty solid lineup I think. Like your lineup KC. I might switch Pujols and Junior, but other than that pretty friggin solid.

 

[zoombabyzoom]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]Cal Ripken to me in that list sticks out like a sore thumb. Rather have Bonds than Frank Thomas

Bonds was not a DH.

Only because the NL doesnt have the DH

 

[tycobb420]

Speaking of postseason, the next poll ought to be all-postseason by position. Might take a bit of digging, but we could come up with pretty solid lineup I think. Like your lineup KC. I might switch Pujols and Junior, but other than that pretty friggin solid.

Postseason would take some work...Having Pujols vs. Gehrig is one thing...having Pujols vs. Gehrig for the postseason would probably require posting stats as opposed to letting people look them up.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Rich what? Richmond![/color]]

Bonds was not a DH.

Only because the NL doesnt have the DH

Yeah so. If he wasn't on roids, his career was over in 2002 after batting .228 and 5 home runs.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Any post '69 list without Bonds is a joke. Roids or not, he's one of the best to ever play the game. He was a 7x MVP, hit 73HR in a season, was walked 232 times in a season with 122 of them being intentionally, has a 1.051 career OPS (he put up 1.422 one season for God's sake!), and finished with a 171.8 WAR in 22 seasons (for perspective, Babe Ruth put up a 172 WAR in his 22 seasons). I think a lot of people really forget how good he was. Stack his offensive numbers up against guys like Aaron, Mantle, Mays, Cobb, Musial, Williams, Gehrig and Pujols and you'll understand. Rickey Henderson was a damn good player, but he's not in the conversation when you talk about the best players ever to play the game. Bonds is.

 

[Thumb]

Any post '69 list without Bonds is a joke. Roids or not, he's one of the best to ever play the game. He was a 7x MVP, hit 73HR in a season, was walked 232 times in a season with 122 of them being intentionally, has a 1.051 career OPS (he put up 1.422 one season for God's sake!), and finished with a 171.8 WAR in 22 seasons (for perspective, Babe Ruth put up a 172 WAR in his 22 seasons). I think a lot of people really forget how good he was. Stack his offensive numbers up against guys like Aaron, Mantle, Mays, Cobb, Musial, Williams, Gehrig and Pujols and you'll understand. Rickey Henderson was a damn good player, but he's not in the conversation when you talk about the best players ever to play the game. Bonds is.

* to all his numbers you stack up against the other greats, his numbers are tainted, and therefor you cant compare them to what players like Mays, Mantle, Ruth etc, put up.

Imagine Ruth's number on HgH and 'roids for half his career.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Yep. If you want to say he was a good player. Cool. But he fk'd up and his numbers are big time tainted. Never hits more than 46 home runs, Then he hits 37, 33, 42, 40, 37, 34 and then bam, 49 and 73 at age 36. Which btw made his OBP inflated. Not only for those years but no one wanted to pitch to him in the later years.

He was a good payer, maybe headed to the hall of fame and he decided to cheat. No way he's a top ten player. No way.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Mitch[/color]]Yep. If you want to say he was a good player. Cool. But he fk'd up and his numbers are big time tainted. Never hits more than 46 home runs, Then he hits 37, 33, 42, 40, 37, 34 and then bam, 49 and 73 at age 36. Which btw made his OBP inflated. Not only for those years but no one wanted to pitch to him in the later years.

He was a good payer, maybe headed to the hall of fame and he decided to cheat. No way he's a top ten player. No way.

He was more than just a "good player". Beyond that, he wasn't doing anything that a lot of other guys weren't, including many of the pitchers he was facing. He was just the best of that era of "tainted" baseball. I'm somewhat of a baseball purist myself, but I'm also able to look at things on the whole.

On that topic, for MLB to act like they suddenly care about the integrity of the game and to label these guys as cheaters is a joke. Selig & Co. knew full well what was going on and loved every second of it. It was Bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Clemens, A-Rod, etc. that were putting butts in the seat post strike. They made baseball exciting and got fringe fans back in the fold.

Further, there were plenty of trash players using too (e.g., Nook Logan). How do you explain their lack of success if steroids are what made Bonds and the rest?

http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/bse-list-steroid-hgh-users-baseball.html

Juicing doesn't make you better at catching the ball, running the bases, or give you a better eye at the plate. It isn't like it gave these guys some uncanny ability to make contact or read pitches. It only enhances some of your natural abilities to play the game where strength is concerned.

Was Bonds a better player on the juice? Yeah. Does it mean that he wasn't great before then? Absolutely not.