The "Just wins something" crowd

[hungry]

Let me preface this comment by saying beating your rivals is important, and I hate losing to MSU and OSU (and ND) as much as anyone, but Harbaugh's record so far is 28-10, which is a very good first 3 years for ANY coach, anywhere.

The "1-5 record in rivalry games" stat people keep bitching about is not a fair and objective standard. Especially because that record is one fumbled snap and a 2-OT road loss amid questionable refereeing away from being 3-3. Those two losses aren't on Harbaugh... he had his team in position to win the games.

Exactly! 28 wins in 3 seasons with a chance at 29 is nothing to sniff at, but it doesn't matter to the new Anti-Harbaugh/UNACCEPTABLE1 crowd. Not a single one of those wins matter, because WE didn't beat OSU and/or win a championship

How soon we forget RichRod who had 2 losing seasons and one season that was barely not. How soon we forget that debacle that Hoke had become. We're already back to the Carr days where 8-4 is UNACCEPTABLE1 and any coach can win 8 or 9 games in AA. FIRE FLOYD!!

 

[byco42]

That may be the case for you, but when MSU was playing Bama I doubt many Michigan fans were pulling for us, nor should they have been.

That game day was overshadowed with my 20-minute one-on-one with the late Ron Mason. What a great man he was.


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[hungry]

You don't put any of that fumbled punt on Harbaugh?

The entire series before was a collection of shit play calls, and then he has gunners on a full-on punt rush. He owns a ton of blame for that.

The entire series? It was 3 plays. He ran it up the gut 3 times and set up to punt on 4th. That is what you do when you have the lead with under 2 minutes to go...

Here is what happened with that game and this Anti-Harbaugh/UNACCEPTABLE1 crowd that game. For the first 59 minutes and 50 seconds, they were smiling and highfiving each other and talking about how great a coach Harbaugh was. Then IT happened and they were all of a sudden like, "Who is this guy?!?! He can't coach!! Who puts gunners on a punt play?!?!?" For 59 minutes and 50 seconds, he was the greatest coach on Earth, then 10 seconds later, he was the worst coach in the world. There is no middle ground.

"if this guy is going to keep this up, he might as well go back to the NFL!!!"

 

[hungry]

Huh? All the punter had to do was catch the snap and punt it away. Game over. Instead he dropped the snap and basically threw it directly to a MSU player.

Yep, catch the snap...if he bobbles it, fall on top of it.

Stupid Harbaugh!!

 

[tomdalton22]

That may be the case for you, but when MSU was playing Bama I doubt many Michigan fans were pulling for us, nor should they have been.

that's probably true. Nobody wants to hear the fans of their rival brag about a NC.

 

[hungry]

That play is completely different if there are not gunners going up field in an all-rush situation. It's inexplicable the way that entire series and punt was handled.

Ton of that falls on the coach.

Even IF they had lined up in max protect, the punter still might've dropped the snap, and MSU still might've scooped it up and returned it for a touchdown. You do not know what would have happened in an alternate universe. You're guessing.

I need to know where you got this crystal ball where it allows you to see these alternate universes. Maybe you should let Harbaugh borrow it.

 

[hungry]

Well, I hate to break it to you, but it's also out of your control who wins when they play each other, too.

It's happened a little more often in the D'Antonio era in football, and it's pretty common in basketball, if a Michigan fan is also a fan of Michigan basketball.

Nope, if the fans act mad about what is happening, then it influences the game and the fans can "just win something!!"

 

[byco42]

Well, I hate to break it to you, but it's also out of your control who wins when they play each other, too.

Well ... and that?s precisely the reason why I get so animated when they do play each other.


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[hungry]

that's probably true. Nobody wants to hear the fans of their rival brag about a NC.

I thought there was not a chance in hell that MSU would even compete that game, so I didn't root for anyone. I ended up being right.

 

[hungry]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to get a sign and write "UNACCEPTABLE1" on it and go down to the sidewalk in front of Harbaugh's house and stand there with it until he understands that we just won't stand for this mediocrity.

 

[dubbsco]

Even IF they had lined up in max protect, the punter still might've dropped the snap, and MSU still might've scooped it up and returned it for a touchdown. You do not know what would have happened in an alternate universe. You're guessing.

I need to know where you got this crystal ball where it allows you to see these alternate universes. Maybe you should let Harbaugh borrow it.

The F does this mean? How can you even justify not having more people back to protect the punter when State had no one back there? Sure, no one can guess how this would play out. But the only thing having more people back to protect is HELP. There's zero, zero fucking logic to having gunners.

Yes, you run it up the gut 3 times and punt if you are okay with giving the other team the ball back or if it's 1975. It's 2017, time to learn how to properly manage a game clock.

I get it, we aren't allowed to question any coach because they are all 900 IQ and do no wrong. But let me say your favorite line one more time in this ridiculous embarrassment of a thread.

Win something.

 

[Sbee]

Yep, catch the snap...if he bobbles it, fall on top of it.

Stupid Harbaugh!!

If he falls on it we have the ball on the 40 with 6 seconds, would be a long field goal for the win but the game would not be over. might have time for a quick out and then a kick. There was also the possibility of a defensive penalty.

The scoop and score was a result of the bobble but also because Miller and Morrisey get there quickly and totally unblocked, another blocker in there would likely altered the route they had to take.

There were a lot of factors at play, the bobble, but also a coaching error. the gunner served no purpose, Michigan had 9 guys to block 11.

 

[hungry]

The F does this mean? How can you even justify not having more people back to protect the punter when State had no one back there? Sure, no one can guess how this would play out. But the only thing having more people back to protect is HELP. There's zero, zero fucking logic to having gunners.

Yes, you run it up the gut 3 times and punt if you are okay with giving the other team the ball back or if it's 1975. It's 2017, time to learn how to properly manage a game clock.

I get it, we aren't allowed to question any coach because they are all 900 IQ and do no wrong. But let me say your favorite line one more time in this ridiculous embarrassment of a thread.

Win something.

When have you ever started your own thread??? I can't think of a single time. Instead you cherry pick threads and tell others what they should be thinking.

It's easy to know what the F that means. It means you are constantly imagining how games would have been decided differently if one or 2 plays had went differently and then saying that the coach is an idiot for not making those plays go that way. You don't know anything. You're simply guessing at what might've been.

9999 times out of 10000 if you run the ball up the middle 3 times and punt...the opponent gets the ball back at the 10 yard line and has to go 90 yards in 10 seconds. Sounds like smart football to me. Only you think it was dumb...I'd bet that Harbaugh is a better football coach than you, but I'm just guessing.

Flux capacitor, crystal ball, you've got to have something up your sleeve.

You win something...oh wait, tell us again about how your intramural basketball league gives you enough basketball knowledge to know that JB is a terrible coach HAHAHAHHAHAHAH

 

[hungry]

If he falls on it we have the ball on the 40 with 6 seconds, would be a long field goal for the win but the game would not be over. might have time for a quick out and then a kick. There was also the possibility of a defensive penalty.

The scoop and score was a result of the bobble but also because Miller and Morrisey get there quickly and totally unblocked, another blocker in there would likely altered the route they had to take.

There were a lot of factors at play, the bobble, but also a coaching error. the gunner served no purpose, Michigan had 9 guys to block 11.

Like i said, no way to know what might've happened.

 

[hungry]

https://www.maizenbrew.com/2017/12/...stability-florida-state-and-tennessee-implode

 

[Sbee]

Like i said, no way to know what might've happened.

Of course, but it's easy to agree that 9 to block 11 is not good coaching.

Overall I do agree that Harbaugh did not do a bad job this year, he did about as much as you can expect given what Michigan lost. People saying "this is unacceptable" are venting a decades worth of frustration, maybe the last 12 seasons overall are unacceptable, but 8-4 after losing 18 starters is certainly acceptable.

 

[hungry]

If you blind yourself to the username, gotime, Sbee, and Dubbs all read like they are the same person...weird!!

 

[hungry]

Of course, but it's easy to agree that 9 to block 11 is not good coaching.

Overall I do agree that Harbaugh did not do a bad job this year, he did about as much as you can expect given what Michigan lost. People saying "this is unacceptable" are venting a decades worth of frustration, maybe the last 12 seasons overall are unacceptable, but 8-4 after losing 18 starters is certainly acceptable.

I do agree with you on the last part. These people are lumping in the failures of Carr, RichRod, and Hoke in with Harbaugh's situation.

If he runs the punt and it goes off as planned, no one notices and it wouldn't have been "not good coaching." That play goes off as planned 999 times out of 1,000.

 

[hungry]

I think it's really simple. If one doesn't like my ideas, writing style, or threads...simply don't read them OR a person can block me like they do other posters when they are just too mean to them...

I'm not paid to entertain anyone around here. No one is getting paid to write these things here...

Don't like what is on the board? Don't read it, don't come here, come up with your own brilliant ideas...

We are simply not going to sit here and talk about nothing. That is not how message boards work.

 

[hungry]

FACTS!!:

Harbaugh, his coaching staff, and his players have all won something 28 times in 3 seasons...chance at 29 soon

Harbaugh, his coaching staff, and his players have all won something 8 times this season...chance at 9th time soon