Tigers In On Alphonso Soriano

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What do you care what Illitch does with his money?

Well I agree with him kind of, if we got Soriano, and paid the full amount, that would severely limit what we could do in the off season, instead of money coming off the books, it would be the reverse.

That said, I'd still like to lose Young and Boesch if possible.

 

[gotime909]

I don't think Soriano is going anywhere.

 

[elrod817]

What do you care what Illitch does with his money?

Maybe spock's in the will and it'll mess with his inheritance...

 

[Mitchrapp]

Well I agree with him kind of, if we got Soriano, and paid the full amount, that would severely limit what we could do in the off season, instead of money coming off the books, it would be the reverse.

That said, I'd still like to lose Young and Boesch if possible.

Haven't we done this before? You assume Illich has a limit on what he wants to spend?

 

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Haven't we done this before? You assume Illich has a limit on what he wants to spend?

I assume nothing.

But you have to believe there is a limit somewhere, and adding $36 million would probably affect what we're able to spend going after other free agents.

We lose some money off the books next year, mainly Valverde, and Inge but Soriano would wipe out those savings.

I'd love to have him, and I mentioned it this afternoon before the rumors started, but the salary is a big handicap.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I assume nothing.

But you have to believe there is a limit somewhere, and adding $36 million would probably affect what we're able to spend going after other free agents.

We lose some money off the books next year, mainly Valverde, and Inge but Soriano would wipe out those savings.

I'd love to have him, and I mentioned it this afternoon before the rumors started, but the salary is a big handicap.

Blah. Illich has no limit it seems. He'll keep his core players. Spend like the NYY for all I care.

 

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Blah. Illich has no limit it seems. He'll keep his core players. Spend like the NYY for all I care.

Well we sure were trying to shed payroll like mad after 2008....so I wouldn't say he has no limit.

Ilitch is a shrewd businessman, he's not going to go too far into the red unless he's positive it will pay off, and with baseball, you can never be positive.

 

[pr0tege]

The Cubs will be paying a huge portion of Soriano's contract if they indeed move him in a waiver wire move. He was offered to the Dodgers along with Dempster and had the Cubs offering to pay all but 4 million of Soriano's remaining contract so basically he would cost 2 million a year over the next 2 seasons.

 

[Rebbiv]

The Yankees have averaged over 35,000 fans per game every year since 1997 (15 seasons, last 12 over 40,000 per game). DET has only did three times of 35,000, including this year, in their entire history and has never topped 40,000 per game.


Attendance and media revenues drive salaries. The Yankees own their own network (YES). There is no way they lose money, even with what they spend. There is a limit to what DET would spend. The question is would Illitch take the gamble. Because that is what it would be.

You can say it isn't "my" money, and that is true. Illitch did not get rich by not make some financially sound decisions.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Illitch did not get rich by not make some financially sound decisions.

I definitely admire Mr. I, but the general public is full of fat degenerates (myself included), so it wasn't exactly rocket science to see the value in selling fast food pizza or opening a damn casino.

 

[tigersofjustice]

.292/.367/.448/.815 in 110 games this year. Career he's .271/.354/.439/.794.

Huff actually had a nervous disorder from what I heard the other day. That's why he choked after the trade.

Huff has panic attacks. It's unlikely that would affect his play on the field when he's not having one. If he were having one he almost certainly would not be playing not to mention that if he were playing the rush of adrenaline would probably benefit him before it would hurt him.

Far more likely reason is simply that he's a very very streaky hitter.

 

[tigersofjustice]

I definitely admire Mr. I, but the general public is full of fat degenerates (myself included), so it wasn't exactly rocket science to see the value in selling fast food pizza or opening a damn casino.

Nobody says you have to be smart to be rich.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/08/poll-will-the-cubs-move-alfonso-soriano-this-month.html
Will the cubs move Soriano this month?
from mlbtraderumors

 

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I definitely admire Mr. I, but the general public is full of fat degenerates (myself included), so it wasn't exactly rocket science to see the value in selling fast food pizza or opening a damn casino.

So all you need to do to get rich is open a pizza join and a casino?

Come on man, you can't be that simple.

Most business ventures fail, Ilitch made Little Ceasars the #3 ranked Pizza chain in the world, I'm sure he had more to go on then" Oh, fat people will buy pizza = I'll be rich".

 

[kingofdetroit57]

So all you need to do to get rich is open a pizza join and a casino?

Come on man, you can't be that simple.

Most business ventures fail, Ilitch made Little Ceasars the #3 ranked Pizza chain in the world, I'm sure he had more to go on then" Oh, fat people will buy pizza = I'll be rich".

I'm not saying that was all there was to it. I'm simply pointing out that he isn't necessarily the business genius some want to see him as. Sometimes it comes down to timing and location more than anything else.

Do you think Mike Ilitch is more of a visionary than Tom Monaghan, James Hearn, Happy Asker, or Eugene Jetts, or do you think timing and market might have played a huge role in pizza being big business in Detroit?

The casino part was almost complete a matter of timing and market. He had the money and clout to get in the mix when the casinos were being planned here. Once you launch a successful business and can get it past that tough initial stage, it becomes a lot easier to build it and expand it (in Ilitch's case franchising a locally successful business is what really made him rich), and also to expand into other markets (nationally and internationally) and businesses (e.g., casinos).

 

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Well, to be fair to Mr. I, he was rich looooong before the casinos ever became an option.

Do I think he's more of a visionary? No, but I would say all those people were exceptional business men with excellent business ideals, and are well above the norm.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I always heard the story about Original Domino's guy only had 58 bucks when he started Domino's.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Well, to be fair to Mr. I, he was rich looooong before the casinos ever became an option.

Do I think he's more of a visionary? No, but I would say all those people were exceptional business men with excellent business ideals, and are well above the norm.

I don't really disagree with that at all. I just find it funny when people with business success are thought of and spoken of as if they are Gods. There are plenty of successful morons who just happened to be in the right place at the right time.

 

[byco42]

Someone on the Ticket today suggested that Delmon Young go back to batting third, because he batted third last season. It's one of the many really "peculiar" suggestions that callers have made in the last two days, and I attribute it to the full moon.

I guess he forgot that Prince Fielder was not on the team last season. He suggested that Fielder bat fifth.

 

[mjsb2]

Someone on the Ticket today suggested that Delmon Young go back to batting third, because he batted third last season. It's one of the many really "peculiar" suggestions that callers have made in the last two days, and I attribute it to the full moon.

I guess he forgot that Prince Fielder was not on the team last season. He suggested that Fielder bat fifth.

Delmon didn't do well batting third last season either.

And the Tigers need to minimize Delmons ABs (they should just cut him), not maximize them.