Tigers vs. Cubs Game 127 August 23 2023

[lonesometiger]

Brieske in in top of 7th

Bo nice clean 123 seventh.

Btw Carpenter keeps his game on base streak alive. I think it is at 20 now.

How many games in a row with a homerun in it now?

 

[biggunsbob]

Tigers 7th

Meadows 4-3
Mckinstry BB
Ibanez line out to cf
Rogers. BB
Baddoo. 1-3 inning over

Pitching change

 

[biggunsbob]

How many games in a row with a homerun in it now?

We missed a game recently . Streak is over. Like last 16 of 17 ish or 18 of 19.

First game of the recent Cleveland series recently we lost 4-1 and didn?t homer. A few games ago.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE202308182.shtml

Started a new one !

 

[biggunsbob]

Rogers hasn?t hit a homer recently. Could sure use one. Sadly not really any pitches to hit.

 

[biggunsbob]

Bo pitching the 8th his 2nd inning.

Cubs 8th.
F-8
Error by Vierling ? I think Mckinstry would have had that ball. Off Vierling . Steal
Line out to mckinstry. Ball was smoked by bellinger
bb
1-2 count Yet another stupid pitch single he throws a damn fastball right down the middle. 5-4 cubs.
Wtf ? He had just swung on a change up out of the zone.
Just really stupid pitch.

Bo never checked the runner at first

Bad fielding and dumb pitching in a 1-2 count takes lead away from tigers again.
Bo never gave Rogers a chance on that steal.. that 1-2 pitch was a fastball right down the freaking middle of the plate .
Just Curious why was Baddoo so deep ? When a single scores a run ?

 

[nydo77]

1-2, and he throws a fast ball right down the middle?Cubs up 5-4 now.

 

[biggunsbob]

Tigers stink in the 8th .

Greene k?s
Spencer k?s on a boarder line strike
Carpenter k?s

 

[biggunsbob]

1-2, and he throws a fast ball right down the middle?Cubs up 5-4 now.

I just don?t understand that pitch. The previous swing. Was on a breaking pitch that wasn?t
A strike. If your throwing the fastball there on 1-2 count it has to be off the plate. Period .
Poor fielding by Vierling didn?t help. He shouldn?t be cutting that ball off.
Bo never gave Rogers a chance on the steal either.

So frustrating.

Now Bo is in line to lose both games in this series.

 

[biggunsbob]

Vazquez in the 9th not very sharp

BB
Single
Sacrifice runners move up.
New pitcher
Cisnero
Sac Fly. 6-4 now. 2outs. Great at bat.
F-9 inning over


Cubs have a decent offense. + 64 in run differential.
Tigers by contrast are -97 Going into this game.

We just don?t do the little things score runs.

 

[biggunsbob]

Tigers 9th


Vierling line out to first
Meadows BB. (Meadows to 3rd)
Mckinstry single
Ibanez. K?s. On a slider a foot off the plate.
Rogers ks. On that nasty slider.

Tigers lose series that should have won.

 

[lonesometiger]

barf barf, gag gag, dead

 

[Mitchrapp]

Tigers 9th


Vierling line out to first
Meadows BB. (Meadows to 3rd)
Mckinstry single
Ibanez. K?s. On a slider a foot off the plate.
Rogers ks. On that nasty slider.

Tigers lose series that should have won.

How? Loses happen. Both teams makes mistakes.

 

[biggunsbob]

How? Loses happen. Both teams makes mistakes.

Carpenter worked his comt to 2-2 or 3-2. Pitcher had to throw a fast ball. And a strike.
Ball was crushed.

Bo had a 1-2 count . Why give in and throw a fastball right down the middle?

It makes zero sense because all series cubs hitters were hitting the fastball.
Throw it off the plate. Pretty easy decision on that count.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Carpenter worked his comt to 2-2 or 3-2. Pitcher had to throw a fast ball. And a strike.
Ball was crushed.

Bo had a 1-2 count . Why give in and throw a fastball right down the middle?

It makes zero sense because all series cubs hitters were hitting the fastball.
Throw it off the plate. Pretty easy decision on that count.

And if their pitcher threw a different pitch to Carpenter we wouldn't have any runs.

 

[kalinecountry]

WAR since 6/1
Carpenter 2.0
Rogers 1.4
Tork 1.4
Greene 1.1
Ibanez 1.1
Vierling 0.7
Baez 0.7
Baddoo 0.1
everyone else is negative WAR.

Zack McKinstry
since 6/1
247 PA
209/244/309
49 wRC+
4% BB
.098 ISO
-0.4 WAR
plays every damn day.

Kerry Carpenter misses ZERO mistakes.

Explain why Matt Vierling plays everyday..is it offense..is it defense..is he a part of the future or even 2025..just a bizzare obsession with a not very good player.

more 2023 WAR Andy Ibanez or Matt Vierling
more HR Andy Ibanez or Matt Vierling
more XBH Andy Ibanez or Matt Vierling
better defender Andy Ibanez or Matt Vierling
Matt Vierling 396 PA
Andy Ibanez 274 PA

Tyler Holton has a 2.6 WAR, fourth among MLB relievers behind only Baltimore?s Felix Bautista (2.9) and Yannier Cano (2.7), and Cincinnati?s Alexis Diaz (2.7). According to advanced metrics, he?s ranked among the Top 33 pitchers in MLB. He was a waiver pick up in spring training.

The Tigers have announced the following roster move:
*Reinstated RHP Spencer Turnbull from the 60-day injured list and optioned him to Triple A Toledo. He had a 6.75 ERA in his minor-league rehab assignment.

 

[kalinecountry]

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/...turnbull-saga-takes-another-turn-01h8hnr84gxg
Tigers News: The Spencer Turnbull saga takes another turn.
The Detroit Tigers have activated Spencer Turnbull off the IL and optioned him to Triple-A Toledo.
MCBTB

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-tigers/2023/08/23/716885/final/box
Boxscore and Highlights and lowlights.

https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/tarik-skubal-strikes-out-seven-in-tigers-loss-to-cubs
Shake it off: Skubal shows grit after taking hard comebacker.
Tigers official site

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2023/8/23/23843375/tigers-4-cubs-6-a-grand-afternoon-recap-august-23
Tigers 4 - Cubs 6: A grand afternoon, despite loss.
Kerry Carpenter continued to dominate in a close game.
BYBTB

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...short-in-tigers-6-4-loss-to-cubs/70658942007/
Carpenter hits grand slam, but rally falls short in Tigers' 6-4 loss to Cubs.
Detnews

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...cap-chicago-cubs-kerry-carpenter/70662638007/
Kerry Carpenter slugs clutch grand slam, but Detroit Tigers lose, 6-4, to Chicago Cubs.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2023/0...lam-is-for-naught-as-tigers-fall-to-cubs.html
Kerry Carpenter?s grand slam is for naught as Tigers fall to Cubs.
Mlive

 

[tomdalton22]

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/...turnbull-saga-takes-another-turn-01h8hnr84gxg
Tigers News: The Spencer Turnbull saga takes another turn.
The Detroit Tigers have activated Spencer Turnbull off the IL and optioned him to Triple-A Toledo.
MCBTB

there was a totally Tigers article talking about the difficult decision that they were going to have to make. It didn't seem like it was going to be very difficult. He was terrible at Detroit and terrible in Toledo.

 

[biggunsbob]

Updated numbers.

Win/losses against the teams they have played.


Baltimore 1-6
Boston 1-5
Tampa Bay 1-5
Philadelphia 0-3
Arizona 0-3
LAA 0-3
Texas 3-4
Blue Jays 2-4
Atlanta 1-2
San Diego 1-2
Oakland 1-2
Washington 1-2
Marlins 1-2
Cubs 1-2

White Sox 3-4
Kansas City 7-3
Cleveland 7-3. Few games left but tigers have clinch the series with Cleveland.
Minnesota 8-5. (Season series is over with the twins).
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Division 25-15

Mets 3-0
SF 3-0
Astros 2-1
Brewers 2-1
Colorado 2-1
St Louis 2-1
Seattle 3-3
Pittsburgh 2-2

Tigers Home 27-35
Tigers away 31-34
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Tigers overall are 58-69

Tigers 19-21 in inter league.
Tigers are 17-16 in one run game's
Tigers are 50-62 in 9 inning games.
Tigers are 8-7 in xtra inning game
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First half???..39-50
Second half?..19-19
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Tigers by the month
Month by Month
Split W L RS RA W-L%
March 0-1 0 4 .000
April 10-16 88 131 .385
May 16-11 116 125 .593
June 9-18 105 132 .333
July 12-13 108 120 .480
Aug.11-10 91-95

 

[biggunsbob]

And if their pitcher threw a different pitch to Carpenter we wouldn't have any runs.

We are not talking about that. We are talking about the 1-2 pitch.
The pitcher had to throw carpenter a strike.

Bo did not. The could was 1-2. Dumb pitch.