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Top 5 cap hits

michiganalex

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Matt stafford- 17,825,600
Ndamukong Suh- 10,494,600
Calvin Johnson- 8,779,600
stephen Tulloch - 4,805,600
Nate Burleson - 4,036,541
Top 5 total - 45,941,941

Adjusted cap- 122,005,687
Top 5%- 37.66%

I thought stafford restructured. Nate too.
 
Stafford was extended. Stafford has two restructures in dead money raising his cap number this year and next year. But next year Staffords number is lower than it is now. Nate took a pay cut, his number was alot bigger before that. His number is the exact same number it would be if they cut him. That is not a coincidence.
 
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What is this? If they got cut? I thought suh was a 20+ mil cap hit this year?

edit: next year is 20+mil
 
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suh is 21 mil next year. nice job mayhew.

It was a nice job to get cap money when he needed it the past 2 years. Now he will extend Suh next year and lower that 21 million number next offseason. Great job Mayhew/Lewand. Remember Calvin and Stafford never actually played on their 20+ million cap numbers. They were extended that offseason. That is the obvious plan for Suh.
 
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It was a nice job to get cap money when he needed it the past 2 years. Now he will extend Suh next year and lower that 21 million number next offseason. Great job Mayhew/Lewand. Remember Calvin and Stafford never actually played on their 20+ million cap numbers. They were extended that offseason. That is the obvious plan for Suh.

But as we've discussed before, several years of restructuring Suh's contract for salary cap purposes have put the Lions in a position where they have two choices after this season. They'll either need to sign Suh to a contract extension or prepare for 2014 to be his final season with the team.

Why? Suh's salary cap figure for 2014 is $21.412 million. The Lions would surely prefer to bring that number down, but it won't be cheap. If Suh is already earning more than the highest-paid defensive tackle in the NFL, and if he has another Pro Bowl-caliber season in 2013, well, you can guess he won't be looking to take much of a pay cut in his new deal.

Suh's leverage would only be increased if the Lions let him play out his contract in 2014, after which he would be eligible for free agency because of a voidable 2015 year in his deal. The basis of negotiations for a new deal at that point would become the franchise tag, which because of NFL rules would be more than $25 million. It's the same rule that ultimately brought receiver Calvin Johnson receiving a $132 million contract in 2012. It also led the Houston Texans to bid farewell to defensive end Mario Williams in free agency.

Long story short: As Suh approaches the verdict season on his career in Detroit, he is still making more money than any player at his position. He is in line to set a new financial standard -- and then some -- if he chooses.
 
Suh will get 12 million per again and he deserves that. No big deal, he won't get way over what Atkins got and set some new crazy financial standard. The man already got paid once too so that gives the Lions leverage and Atkins play over Suh gives the Lions leverage. And the fact the Lions can handle the 21 million number and have Fairely still give the Lions leverage. The 21 million most of that has already been paid to Suh. The Lions will give him 12 million per and roll with them long term. Great move and proper manipulation of the cap with the previous restructures.
 
I hope we don't have to restructure him and push that money forward, get it off the book's so we can use it in FA.
 
Suh will get 12 million per again and he deserves that. No big deal, he won't get way over what Atkins got and set some new crazy financial standard. The man already got paid once too so that gives the Lions leverage and Atkins play over Suh gives the Lions leverage. And the fact the Lions can handle the 21 million number and have Fairely still give the Lions leverage. The 21 million most of that has already been paid to Suh. The Lions will give him 12 million per and roll with them long term. Great move and proper manipulation of the cap with the previous restructures.

Suh and his agent don't care what the Lions already paid to him. They are going to ask for a raise. Look at Stafford...he already made more than the deserved and got a raise.
 
suh is 21 mil next year. nice job mayhew.

I find it a little bit unfair to blame all of this on Mayhew.

He was saddled with contracts for a #2, #1 and #2 pick in the last years before the rookie wage scale made rookie salaries more team friendly.

The cap hits we have now and the deferred money we are dealing with were created in an effort to be able to sign free agents and remain (relatively( competitive.

How much heat would Mayhew be taking if we weren't able to sign Tulloch, Quin, Bush, etc?

I feel like this guy can do nothing right somtimes.
 
I find it a little bit unfair to blame all of this on Mayhew.

He was saddled with contracts for a #2, #1 and #2 pick in the last years before the rookie wage scale made rookie salaries more team friendly.

The cap hits we have now and the deferred money we are dealing with were created in an effort to be able to sign free agents and remain (relatively( competitive.

How much heat would Mayhew be taking if we weren't able to sign Tulloch, Quin, Bush, etc?

I feel like this guy can do nothing right somtimes.

you are right...they were screwed over by the old CBA. They could have tried to trade Megatron or Suh or could have tried to trade out of #2 the year Suh was there. None of those things would have been easy though.

The players are in the driver's seat when it is time to re-structure because they know the Lions have to do it.
 
you are right...they were screwed over by the old CBA. They could have tried to trade Megatron or Suh or could have tried to trade out of #2 the year Suh was there. None of those things would have been easy though.

The players are in the driver's seat when it is time to re-structure because they know the Lions have to do it.

Trading any of those guys would have accelerated the contract and killed our cap defeating the purpose of trading them. As for the restructures there is no drivers seat. They are just turning base salary into signing bonus money so they can push it back. The player gets a check on the spot and the team gets cap space to use on FA's to make the team better, its a win win for everyone but Hughes.
 
Trading any of those guys would have accelerated the contract and killed our cap defeating the purpose of trading them. As for the restructures there is no drivers seat. They are just turning base salary into signing bonus money so they can push it back. The player gets a check on the spot and the team gets cap space to use on FA's to make the team better, its a win win for everyone but Hughes.

I didn't write that....seifert did. And youre wrong....suh holds all the cards.....cause hes the one owed 21 million next year. He either restructures and gets a fat deal. Or he says fuck off and gets 21 mil voids his voidable year and either gets like 26 mil the following year on a franchise tag....or is on a different team. nice job mayhew.
 
I didn't write that....seifert did. And youre wrong....suh holds all the cards.....cause hes the one owed 21 million next year. He either restructures and gets a fat deal. Or he says fuck off and gets 21 mil voids his voidable year and either gets like 26 mil the following year on a franchise tag....or is on a different team. nice job mayhew.

I wasn't talking about suh next year I was talking about what got him to the 21 Mil. it really comes down to Suh, if he wants to be here its not a problem if he wants to leave we fucked.
 
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