Triple Doubles in Michigan basketball history

[TheVictors]

We played Webber in HS (3) yrs from Soph to Senior. In his last game vs TC he scored 44pts including a monstrous windmill 360 dunk and a number of 3’s ....Elem aged kids were clamoring for his autograph and police were onsite before the game to prevent abusive scalping of the $2 tickets to the sold out game.

 

[Michchamp]

We played Webber in HS (3) yrs from Soph to Senior. In his last game vs TC he scored 44pts including a monstrous windmill 360 dunk and a number of 3?s ....Elem aged kids were clamoring for his autograph and police were onsite before the game to prevent abusive scalping of the $2 tickets to the sold out game.

It's really surprising he could dominate like that against a team from a place that was all white people.

 

[Spartanmack]

I know Juwan still has his status as an All-American. He was never implicated in the investigation in any way, shape, or form. Neither were Jimmy King or Ray Jackson.

Rose was found to have taken very small amounts. Webber is really the only reason the Fab Five had their records, Final Fours, etc. vacated.

he is also the only reason they got all those records, Final Fours, etc. Without him, they're not at all the same team.

 

[Spartanmack]

We played Webber in HS (3) yrs from Soph to Senior. In his last game vs TC he scored 44pts including a monstrous windmill 360 dunk and a number of 3?s ....Elem aged kids were clamoring for his autograph and police were onsite before the game to prevent abusive scalping of the $2 tickets to the sold out game.

he was doing the same against the #1 team in the country. When I was a junior at MSU he was a senior DCD. some friends and I went to the Detroit Southwestern game at Cobo - place was packed to see the #1 player in the country against the #1 team in the country (DSW had Jalen Rose and Voshon Leonard who starred at Minnesota). DCD was missing 2 starters and they lost the game but Webber absolutely dominated the floor, swatting shots into the stands, pulling 2 handed reverse jams with defenders all over him. he was a man among boys against the best team in the country.

 

[TheVictors]

It's really surprising he could dominate like that against a team from a place that was all white people.

In TC we always beat the basketball teams from schools to the north but lost to them in hockey and vice versa in hoops. We did make it pretty far in the 80's with Dan Majerle and again with a kid named Chad Allen who played college at SMU. And my friend Mike Kurtz (RIP) was Black and played against Webber ...Country Day had some crackers on the roster too!


But yeah ...one of the TC dads wrote an angry letter in the paper complaining that we TC students were cheering Webber on too much and not supporting his son/team.


His son was a dick. When Webber dunked on him, the place went nuts!

 

[tinselwolverine]

he was doing the same against the #1 team in the country. When I was a junior at MSU he was a senior DCD. some friends and I went to the Detroit Southwestern game at Cobo - place was packed to see the #1 player in the country against the #1 team in the country (DSW had Jalen Rose and Voshon Leonard who starred at Minnesota). DCD was missing 2 starters and they lost the game but Webber absolutely dominated the floor, swatting shots into the stands, pulling 2 handed reverse jams with defenders all over him. he was a man among boys against the best team in the country.

That doesn’t get his team the ball back though.

It would have been better to swat the shots to a teammate who raced down on the floor and jammed it or made a layup.

Webber was always a little bit of an undisciplined player.

That’s probably why he never got a championship ring.

 

[thewolverines24]

That doesn?t get his team the ball back though.

It would have been better to swat the shots to a teammate who raced down on the floor and jammed it or made a layup.

Webber was always a little bit of an undisciplined player.

That?s probably why he never got a championship ring.

This is either great sarcasm or lunacy. :cheers:

 

[tinselwolverine]

This is either great sarcasm or lunacy. :cheers:

It was mostly sarcasm? BUT -

Fab five as a unit had a very wide open free wheeling style. It often made for a fantastic play, but from time to to it led to some breakdowns.

This is actually one of the things that made them so exciting to watch.

They were not the all time greatest unit in college basketball history, but they might have been the all-time most exciting.

It seemed like no lead they ever got could be viewed as safe, but on the other hand, no deficit they got themselves into seemed insurmountable.

 

[hungry]

They were all assholes, too!!

anyway, why the F are we talking about the fab 5? This is a post about triple doubles and none of them got one

I remember Brent Petway almost got one with points, rebounds, and blocks, but he did not.

Cazzie Russell might've got one or 2. We'll never know, because they didn't record assists back then, but he was a small forward, so I'm going to lean towards him not ever getting a triple double. Small forwards just don't get a lot of assists.

Some of the triple doubles were against sub par competition, so it is nice to see Simpson's triple double came against Ohio State.

 

[Spartanmack]

That doesn?t get his team the ball back though.

It would have been better to swat the shots to a teammate who raced down on the floor and jammed it or made a layup.

Webber was always a little bit of an undisciplined player.

That?s probably why he never got a championship ring.

it's fun to watch and intimidates opponents, gets the crowd hyped but a poor strategic choice. In that case the crowd was mostly against him because they felt he dissed the public schools to play at DCD and he was up against the best team in the city (ranked #1 in the country at the time, 2 years running). A couple old timers sitting in front of us couldn't seem to get past that as they kept saying "best player in the country? he aint even the best player on the floor right now!" Granted, there was other elite talent out there but any objective observer could see he clearly was the best player out there.

 

[Spartanmack]

even if they tracked assists before 1977 there probably wouldn't be that many more. Triple doubles aren't exactly common in the NBA (at least not when I used to follow it) where little or no defense is played and games are 8 minutes longer.

 

[hungry]

it's fun to watch and intimidates opponents, gets the crowd hyped but a poor strategic choice. In that case the crowd was mostly against him because they felt he dissed the public schools to play at DCD and he was up against the best team in the city (ranked #1 in the country at the time, 2 years running). A couple old timers sitting in front of us couldn't seem to get past that as they kept saying "best player in the country? he aint even the best player on the floor right now!" Granted, there was other elite talent out there but any objective observer could see he clearly was the best player out there.

Was this before or after he committed to Michigan?

 

[Spartanmack]

It was mostly sarcasm? BUT -

Fab five as a unit had a very wide open free wheeling style. It often made for a fantastic play, but from time to to it led to some breakdowns.

This is actually one of the things that made them so exciting to watch.

They were not the all time greatest unit in college basketball history, but they might have been the all-time most exciting.

It seemed like no lead they ever got could be viewed as safe, but on the other hand, no deficit they got themselves into seemed insurmountable.

I assume you're both talking about the championships because you're spot on about blocks. There isn't a coach that won't tell you "don't swat it" - I think John Thompson used to try to run fast breaks by coaching guys like Ewing, Mourning & Mutombo to block shots to the wings - technically he was swatting it, but with a purpose.

 

[hungry]

There are coaches that do tell them to not try to block shots. JB has been quoted as talking about how he coaches his players to not go for the block sometimes. Going for the block gets a player out of position to rebound and gets players in foul trouble. At least, this is what JB says.

 

[Spartanmack]

Was this before or after he committed to Michigan?

I think before but I don't remember. For that game, I definitely drove to Cobo from home, not from campus so it was probably during Christmas break. I don't recall when he committed but I don't think he had by then.