UOS Bowl game

[redandguilty]

...either way, you haven't seen Michigan paying tribute to someone with a show cause.

 

[rumseyhouse77]

RR's problems were more personal than programatic. If you are referring to the penalities that Michigan got for stretching too much, well all I can say is that we took our penalties. And you can bet we will not have RR back for a celebration, or Steve Fisher back either.

 

[hungry]

There are athletes on every campus taking freebies and not doing the work that should be required of them. Get off your high horse!

Prove that it currently happens withe University of Michigan football team or has happened in the last 5 years...

 

[hungry]

Past 10 years I would have to guess that UM has been cleaner. In the past 25 with the Fab five issue I would have to say OSU. Just like it was said earlier in the thread...not all violations / crimes are equal.

yeah, because a booster gave Michigan bball players some money in the 90's while the head coach of the OSU bball team personally gave money to 2 recruits in the late 90's and they had academic violations on their bball team. There were no academic violations in MIchigan bball. Let's see, a fan/booster sneaking money to some players or a head coach directly giving money to 2 players/recruits. Which is worse?

 

[redandguilty]

Prove that it currently happens withe University of Michigan football team or has happened in the last 5 years...

...or prove that our coach lied about it and we continued to give him the hero treatment.

 

[hungry]

That's a fair answer for a buckeye. I think the "Fab Five" thing (primarily not involving the Fab Five) highlights the differences between the programs. The Michigan and Ohio reactions to scandal are like night and day.

Yep, anyone wiht a brain would know that it isn't the "fab 5." It was Webber who was one of the fab 5 and 3 other guys that were there in 97/98 that definitely were not fab in any way conceivable. Don't expect a Buckeye to know this, though. They just scream "Well, you guys had the fab 5!!!!"

 

[hungry]

That's a fair answer for a buckeye. I think the "Fab Five" thing (primarily not involving the Fab Five) highlights the differences between the programs. The Michigan and Ohio reactions to scandal are like night and day.

Yep, you ever think Fisher will be brought back to UofM to have a parade and a celebration? Hell no! He is a cast out. He was fired, not forced to resign errrrr retire and he will never be welcomed back for any celebration. Michigan won the national title in 89 under Fisher and I have no doubt whatsoever that Fisher will never be a part of any celebration honoring that team.

 

[hungry]

Yet they hired Rich Rod who is had a worse reputation than Tressell. Sometimes even Michigan will lower it's high standards to try and put a winning team on the field.

RichRod had a worse reputation than Tressell? Says who? Tressell was caught cheating at YSU. RIchRod was never caught cheating at any level until practicegate hit MIchigan, practicing 20 extra minutes per week over summer practices.

 

[jwlcosu]

Well, this thread has gone off in a boring direction. Let's see if we can get it back on track. No bowl game, obviously, but The Urbanator's first year certainly made a statement. How many recruits will flip because of this:

 

[byco42]

Well, this thread has gone off in a boring direction. Let's see if we can get it back on track. No bowl game, obviously, but The Urbanator's first year certainly made a statement. How many recruits will flip because of this:

The Buckeye football program would walk across an acre of bleached skulls to get a drink of water and never look down. That program has no moral compass, conscience, ethos or identity other than win at any cost.

It attracts similar vacuous mindless fans who only live to bask in the manufactured glory. So the program won all its games this season. It's ultimately a losing one.

 

[jwlcosu]

The Buckeye football program would walk across an acre of bleached skulls to get a drink of water and never look down. That program has no moral compass, conscience, ethos or identity other than win at any cost.

It attracts similar vacuous mindless fans who only live to bask in the manufactured glory. So the program won all its games this season. It's ultimately a losing one.

Everything you say might be true, but, whatever. This thread was supposed to be about fashion.

 

[byco42]

Everything you say might be true, but, whatever. This thread was supposed to be about fashion.

No, it's about a morally bankrupt football program.

 

[tomdalton22]

No, it's about a morally bankrupt football program.

It's this attitude that drives me crazy about some UM fans. Fans like you that think UM runs a squeaky clean program and look down your nose at other programs. There are players on the UM football team and B-Ball team that are taking $100 handshakes right now. There is no such thing as a clean program.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It's this attitude that drives me crazy about some UM fans. Fans like you that think UM runs a squeaky clean program and look down your nose at other programs. There are players on the UM football team and B-Ball team that are taking $100 handshakes right now. There is no such thing as a clean program.

 

[hungry]

It's this attitude that drives me crazy about some UM fans. Fans like you that think UM runs a squeaky clean program and look down your nose at other programs. There are players on the UM football team and B-Ball team that are taking $100 handshakes right now. There is no such thing as a clean program.

link please?

 

[rumseyhouse77]

It's this attitude that drives me crazy about some UM fans. Fans like you that think UM runs a squeaky clean program and look down your nose at other programs. There are players on the UM football team and B-Ball team that are taking $100 handshakes right now. There is no such thing as a clean program.

This is the arguement of a fan defending a dirty program. "Everyone does it". "All programs cheat." "Everyone lies, cheats, and steals." No, not everyone does it, not all programs cheat, not everyone lies, cheats, and steals. The program that you are defending did. We have heard this arguement from some ohio* fans before. That arguement will get you no where around here.

 

[redandguilty]

There are players on the UM football team and B-Ball team that are taking $100 handshakes right now.

What makes you think that? There are accounts from players saying that it's different at Michigan because they don't get that stuff. I don't doubt that it has happened, but it's the exception at Michigan, not accepted as normal and an assumed truth like it is for you.

 

[redandguilty]

Everything you say might be true, but, whatever. This thread was supposed to be about fashion.

OK. We don't like your style.

 

[jwlcosu]

No, it's about a morally bankrupt football program.

Well, yeah, we may be morally bankrupt but come on, who among us wouldn't walk across an acre or two of bleached skulls to win a National Championship? They're already skulls and they're already bleached.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Well, yeah, we may be morally bankrupt but come on, who among us wouldn't walk across an acre or two of bleached skulls to win a National Championship? They're already skulls and they're already bleached.