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Buckeye victims?
 
OK. We don't like your style.

Don't ya hate when you go to a discussion board thinking you are going to discuss something meaningless and it turns into a serious discussion about a much more serious topic. That's what happens on Michigan boards.
 
What makes you think that? There are accounts from players saying that it's different at Michigan because they don't get that stuff. I don't doubt that it has happened, but it's the exception at Michigan, not accepted as normal and an assumed truth like it is for you.

So it is the exception at UM but according to you it is the rule at other schools. Also, why would you take a player's word....it's not like they are going to tell the truth if it is happening.
 
So it is the exception at UM but according to you it is the rule at other schools. Also, why would you take a player's word....it's not like they are going to tell the truth if it is happening.

No, there are a lot more schools than just UM where is doesn't happen. He never said that it was the rule at other schools, he said it was the rule at OSU. We can provide links. Learn to read.
 
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It's this attitude that drives me crazy about some UM fans. Fans like you that think UM runs a squeaky clean program and look down your nose at other programs. There are players on the UM football team and B-Ball team that are taking $100 handshakes right now. There is no such thing as a clean program.

Obtuse ain't going to cut it. OSU football, institutionally, is corrupt. Intentionally.
 
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Well, yeah, we may be morally bankrupt but come on, who among us wouldn't walk across an acre or two of bleached skulls to win a National Championship? They're already skulls and they're already bleached.

Not me. I can only speak for me, however.
 
So it is the exception at UM but according to you it is the rule at other schools. Also, why would you take a player's word....it's not like they are going to tell the truth if it is happening.

Not according to me. According to you. You expect it. You assume it's the norm everywhere.

I don't know how it is at most schools. We all have various impressions about various schools, but there's not a lot of information available on this sort of thing. I have overwhelmingly paid the most attention to Michigan, and OSU is a distant #2. So I'm talking about a difference between those two schools.

...and yes, sometimes players do admit to this stuff happening. Antonio Pittman tweeted that the tattoo stuff had been going on since 2001.
 
No, it's about a morally bankrupt football program.

The tattoo thing was bad, but not [/i]THAT[/i] bad. Tressel shouldn't have lied, and his lying isn't a trival thing, but regarding the overall $100 handshake culture, the fact they were selling gold pants suggests (to me) that $100 handshakes aren't all that common at OSU either. I believe Michigan is better about that sort of thing than OSU, but I suspect there are far worse schools out there.

What I find more disturbing is the difference in how rival fans are treated in Ann Arbor and Columbus. You can usually queue up another round of the "it happens everywhere" defense when the issue is brought up, but there are enough stories out there that I would think there would even be some level-headed buckeyes that can see there's a big difference overall.
 
The tattoo thing was bad, but not [/i]THAT[/i] bad. Tressel shouldn't have lied, and his lying isn't a trival thing, but regarding the overall $100 handshake culture, the fact they were selling gold pants suggests (to me) that $100 handshakes aren't all that common at OSU either. I believe Michigan is better about that sort of thing than OSU, but I suspect there are far worse schools out there.

What I find more disturbing is the difference in how rival fans are treated in Ann Arbor and Columbus. You can usually queue up another round of the "it happens everywhere" defense when the issue is brought up, but there are enough stories out there that I would think there would even be some level-headed buckeyes that can see there's a big difference overall.

I'd rather see $100 handshakes than memorabilia getting sold for $thousands at a tatoo parlor that was getting investigated for drug dealing and money laundering...but hey, that's just my opinion.
 
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