You don?t always get what you pay for.

[hungry]

Michigan has been way better than average under Harbaugh.

Hasn?t been Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia or Notre Dame.

I guess maybe not Oklahoma or Texas.

Am I missing Any team that has been better than Michigan during the Harbaugh era?

Texas has barely spent any time at all in the top 25 the last 5.5 years that Harbaugh has been in place.

 

[hungry]

Average meaning losing to Penn St., OSU, Mich St., Wisconsin, ND... sure they can earn a good record against the likes of Indiana, NW, Rutgers, etc... Five years and still can?t put together an elite team with great recruits? C?mon! He?s got the best tools available.

I think you're living in the 90's. Michigan no longer has the best tools available. Everyone has good facilities now. Very few elite athletes are looking at the education angle. Oh, they say they do, but do they really care about that? The Michigan name just doesn't mean as much as it used to, just like Florida St, Texas, USC, and a few others don't carry the same weight as they used to. Times are different now. Michigan has very good tools available, but not the best. Some of that can be laid at Harbaugh's feet, but this has been going on for a while since Harbaugh ever got to Michigan.

 

[hungry]

Don't get me wrong. I believe that Harbaugh should be doing better and the program should be in a better position, but I just disagree with some specific things that some people say.

 

[Michchamp]

I think michdad1 just needs a hug.

 

[byco42]

It's an odd year. Even years are better for this program under Harbaugh. 2016 and 2018. Maybe in 2020.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

They did?

Good for them.

I guess I don?t care enough to have even known that.

The coach is still Dan Antonio, right?

tinsel, it's Mark Danantonio.


And he gets a $4.3M bonus if he's still the MSU coach on January 15, 2020. Might be time for a change.


https://projects.newsday.com/college-football-coaches-salaries-contracts/mark-dantonio/

 

[byco42]

tinsel, it's Danantonio.


And he gets a $4.3M bonus if he's still the MSU coach on January 15, 2020. Might be time for a change.


https://projects.newsday.com/college-football-coaches-salaries-contracts/mark-dantonio/

Yes. Mike SanAntonio. Or Mike D'antoni. He accepts both versions, but prefers to just scowl and hate press conferences.

 

[gotime909]

Michigan has been way better than average under Harbaugh.

Hasn?t been Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia or Notre Dame.

I guess maybe not Oklahoma or Texas.

Am I missing Any team that has been better than Michigan during the Harbaugh era?

Guess it would depend on the criteria. Personally I'd say any team that has made it the the playoff or won a power 5 conference title in that span. So my list would be a bit longer than yours.

 

[tinselwolverine]

tinsel, it's Mark Danantonio.

Yes of coarse I knew that.

I was taking a swipe at our Spartan friend on the thread.

 

[gotime909]

Yes of coarse I knew that.

I was taking a swipe at our Spartan friend on the thread.

Byco's Mike SanAntonio has a nice ring.

Speaking of ring, let's get back to Harbs lack of one of any kind since at UM

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Yes of coarse I knew that.

I was taking a swipe at our Spartan friend on the thread.

Yeah, I know. Me, too.

 

[bphillips4gg]

I realize that y'all are just messing with him but arguing that getting blown it in their 1 playoff appearance is less of a success than never getting there is pretty dumb. About as dumb as the people who say Brady sucks because he lost 3 super bowls and <insert lesser QB here> never lost one, even though they went to 6 less.

Now if the conversation is which program is in a better place currently, that's clearly Michigan. Then again, it's always been and will be because it's Michigan and MSU is MSU.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

I didn't see where anyone did that. I certainly didn't, because it's obviously better to get there than not, no matter what the result.


Michigan fans have nothing to gloat about. Bama beat us like a rug, too.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I realize that y'all are just messing with him but arguing that getting blown it in their 1 playoff appearance is less of a success than never getting there is pretty dumb. About as dumb as the people who say Brady sucks because he lost 3 super bowls and <insert lesser QB here> never lost one, even though they went to 6 less.

Who made that argument?

 

[thewolverines24]

Who made that argument?

Yeah, if anyone starts an argument with "Brady sucks" just walk away. You're dealing with the dumbest of the dumb at that point.

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[bphillips4gg]

Who made that argument?

Just saying that gotime has a point. Although Michigan's overall record during Jim's time is better, MSU has had the best single season in that time.

 

[byco42]

Just saying that gotime has a point. Although Michigan's overall record during Jim's time is better, MSU has had the best single season in that time.

The next time gotime has a valid point about Michigan football, it will be his first.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Just saying that gotime has a point. Although Michigan's overall record during Jim's time is better, MSU has had the best single season in that time.

OK.

I didn?t see anyone responding about MSU being blown out in the CFP, until you.

In #11, I just said I care so little about the Spartans that I didn?t remember them even
ever getting there.

I actually had to look it to see that it happened Harbaugh?s first season at Michigan.

OK.

Again, good for them.

 

[byco42]

Since the 38-0 loss to Alabama 2015, these Big Ten Teams have more wins than Michigan State.

OSU, Michigan, PSU, WISC, Iowa, NW and MINN.

 

[Michchamp]

Since the 38-0 loss to Alabama 2015, these Big Ten Teams have more wins than Michigan State.

OSU, Michigan, PSU, WISC, Iowa, NW and MINN.

their game thread for that one was a fun read. note the genius prediction in post #21...