Your choice of FA

[cheeno]

I want a fa wide receiver. Welker if I had my choice. I'm tired of drafting garbage and trotting out crap next to CJ. Our offence can get us out of nearly every jam, with Wes Welker in the mix, we'd be a threat to score on every down and the two minute drill would be nuts. Stop trotting out the black Wes Welker or no kneed Wes Welker or the recently cut by the Jags Wes Welker or the Wes Welker that tells your OC "fuck your couch".

The Pats are going to let him walk or resign him at a discount (what they do). The guy is thirty but has 4 years left, with his type of play (Short lateral quickness). Never going to happen but since we are talking pipe dreams...

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

set us back how? from being the 8th worst defense in points against to 5th? from not being able to come up with a stop when we need it to, what, not being able to come up with a stop ever?

that's our fucking problem now is we have too much money invested in just a handful of guys on the defensive side. if we resign Houston we're not getting a home town discount. his market value is at minimum 8 mill per. you really want to get out of the Avril deal and turn around and basically sign another Avril?

the price we would spend on just Houston alone could possibly be enough to sign both of the safety's I mentioned (Goldson and Moore). having both of those guys back there makes our defense, as a whole, much better than does just having Houston, imo. Both are young, have been healthy, can really help in the run game, both can make plays in coverage, and most importantly both will help with enforcing a physicality that we just don't have unless Delmas is on the field. Houston, while good, only adds to one or two of the five ways I just listed.

unless you're going to spell out why you believe what you believe so we can have an actual conversation about the merits of spending money on Houston vs not spending money on Houston then this will be my last post addressed at you. your unsubstantiated opinion with zero explanation means next to nothing.

so much wrong with this comment...moore and goldson are not coming here..goldson will sign a bigger contract than chris houston....chris will not draw 8 mil per..he doesn't have the numbers int wise and constantly is flown under the radar..which will be good for us i believe...and he is our best player in the back 7.......if we want to get better in the secondary we have to keep houston..he is a model citizen..and shows up and makes plays week in and week out..while hardly being thrown at.................yoiur dream of getting goldson is a pipedream..and would easily earn a bigger contract than houston...guaranteed..

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

I want a fa wide receiver. Welker if I had my choice. I'm tired of drafting garbage and trotting out crap next to CJ. Our offence can get us out of nearly every jam, with Wes Welker in the mix, we'd be a threat to score on every down and the two minute drill would be nuts. Stop trotting out the black Wes Welker or no kneed Wes Welker or the recently cut by the Jags Wes Welker or the Wes Welker that tells your OC "fuck your couch".

The Pats are going to let him walk or resign him at a discount (what they do). The guy is thirty but has 4 years left, with his type of play (Short lateral quickness). Never going to happen but since we are talking pipe dreams...

doubt we get wes...the only big name FA wr i could see us getting bang for the buck is greg jennings...injuries+age+hometown may fit our budget and lower his demand..he's not too old yet..injuries stink..but for most part of his career he hasn't been...we'll see i guess..

 

[mhughes0021]

so much wrong with this comment...moore and goldson are not coming here..goldson will sign a bigger contract than chris houston....chris will not draw 8 mil per..he doesn't have the numbers int wise and constantly is flown under the radar..which will be good for us i believe...and he is our best player in the back 7.......if we want to get better in the secondary we have to keep houston..he is a model citizen..and shows up and makes plays week in and week out..while hardly being thrown at.................yoiur dream of getting goldson is a pipedream..and would easily earn a bigger contract than houston...guaranteed..

he'll be looking for 6-8mil. He probably deserves 6 a yr.

 

[cheeno]

Eric Wright was supposed to make 7.75 mil in 2013 base. Johnny Carson voice, Eric....Wright.

 

[lionsFTW]

yoiur dream of getting goldson is a pipedream..and would easily earn a bigger contract than houston...guaranteed..

Goldson's absolute ceiling for per year dollars in an optimal market is Houston's floor in an average market... guaranteed...

The only chance of Houston making less than 8 mill per this off season would be because there are actually some decent FA corners. If every single one of them makes it to the open market then yes, the market becomes over saturated and guys will have to scale back expectations because there simply aren't enough teams that can afford to spend 5 yrs and 50 mill on a DB and you'll end up with a bunch of guys taking one year deals to hope to cash in next year.

If even a few of the upper tier guys get resigned to their current teams then the CB market remains what it is, the second most coveted position on the open market, on the defensive side of the ball. Good FA corners get paid.

 

[mhughes0021]

Goldson's absolute ceiling for per year dollars in an optimal market is Houston's floor in an average market... guaranteed...

The only chance of Houston making less than 8 mill per this off season would be because there are actually some decent FA corners. If every single one of them makes it to the open market then yes, the market becomes over saturated and guys will have to scale back expectations because there simply aren't enough teams that can afford to spend 5 yrs and 50 mill on a DB and you'll end up with a bunch of guys taking one year deals to hope to cash in next year.

If even a few of the upper tier guys get resigned to their current teams then the CB market remains what it is, the second most coveted position on the open market, on the defensive side of the ball. Good FA corners get paid.

I still use josephs 8 mil as a benchmark. Wright was overpaid cause there werent many cb options last year and tb is nuts. To me houston still deserves 6-8.

 

[detroit1811]

Houston is not gonna get 8mila year, just nt happening. He lingered after the lockout for how long before he settled on a 2 year 6mil deal from us and he was coming off a really good year. He has maybe concerns over his shoulder and he profiles as more of a #2. He gets 6mil a year tops with my guess being around 5 years 25mil 10 in guarantees.

Also Goldson coming over two pro bowl caliber campaigns is gonna get more then Houston. Yes hes a safety, but the elite safety's are getting top dollar now. Look at Weddle getting 10mil a year, or Polamalu with 9. William Moore is much more realistic as his value is considerably less and in the 5mil range.

 

[zyxt9]

I still use josephs 8 mil as a benchmark. Wright was overpaid cause there werent many cb options last year and tb is nuts. To me houston still deserves 6-8.

Not saying EW deserved the pay, but didn't TB agree to that contract in part because they needed to spend money in order to reach the team minimum set by the CBA? Crazy, yes...but I recall they were under and needed to bump up team $ so they aggressively pursued a couple CBs and EW cashed in.

I'd rather be forced to spend extra money, allowing you to go after some bigger FA targets, than be like the Lions trying to restructure 3 back-breaking contracts all the time in order to stay under the cap, and consequently unable to spend quality money on FAs who can actually help the team. No, I'm not saying I would trade Staff, CJ, nor Suh (unless the deal was Herschel Walker-esque), just wishing they had been able to pay those guys a million or two less each year as that would be the difference between signing bottom feeder FAs and getting some better ones. Not begrudging them for getting paid, but at some point I think they look back and wonder whether they cost themselves a shot at the Super Bowl because they wanted to get paid by the Lions. The big money comes from endorsements, and the more rings you have, the more $$$ the endorsements bring, so I feel they only saw the short term money and not the big picture. Of course winning the Super Bowl is not a guarantee, but the better the team is, the better the chance of making that happen.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I thought they had 2-3 years to get there?

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

I thought they had 2-3 years to get there?

they might have...but i think some teams just spent their money to get up there anyways...i remember carolina dishing out huge contracts everywhere also...tampa also signed vincent jackson...

 

[cheeno]

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