2016 Draft- Who ya got?

[tonyballs]

You mean Mayock said what I said two weeks ago in this very thread?

Awesome!! Did you win something?? Lol. Not on here enough to catch the minor details.

Good call though!!!

 

[tonyballs]

William Jackson III....DB....Houston.

He is my sleeper DB pick. That kid looked REALLY quick in drills and ran 4.37.

I really like the look of that kid.

Love that kid. I personally loved what i saw from Hargreaves.

 

[tonyballs]

Give me the top DB on the board. Quietly that's what has become the most important position in football outside of the QB.

Yes, I know you got to protect your QB and yes I know you need to pressure a QB. But this day an age with the scrambling QB's you need DB's who can stick with a receiver for an extended play.

Look at the top teams the past couple of seasons and what they had with their DB's.

Last years Super Bowl winner had Revis.
2yrs ago it was Sherman
Norman faced off against Peterson in the NFC title game this year.
Harris and Talib helped Denver this year win the Super Bowl beating Norman and Car.

We need DB help!

Best one of the bunch is a 5th rder. You don't necessarily have to target the "top CB". You can wait until the later rds.

 

[tonyballs]

Alshon who is about to make top 5 money....yup, I'll take that at 16 and pay him a mil.

Exactly!! I would love Treadwell in Lions colors!!

 

[tonyballs]

I'm pretty sure Coleman and his 4.35 (my guess of what he'll run at his pro day) or Fuller and his 4.32 pose pretty decent deep threats.

Treadwell is a big target, not necessarily a deep threat.

Give me Coleman over Fuller in a heartbeat

 

[kmd47]

Give me Coleman over Fuller in a heartbeat

This but I'd take 6'3" in Doctson over 5'11" in Coleman... Just think if Calvin goes we need that size...

 

[thehippo73]

Here is a list of the 16th Picks in the draft. Not a lot of stars from that slot. Some HOF guys but not many.

2015 Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest Houston Texans
2014 Zach Martin OG Notre Dame Dallas Cowboys
2013 EJ Manuel QB Florida State Buffalo Bills
2012 Quinton Coples DE North Carolina NY Jets
2011 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue Washington
2010 Derrick Morgan DE/OLB Georgia Tech Tennessee
2009 Larry English DE/OLB N. Illinois San Diego
2008 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. State Arizona
2007 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee Green Bay
2006 Jason Allen CB Tennessee Miami
2005 Travis Johnson DT Florida State Houston
2004 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas Philadelphia
2003 Troy Polamalu SS Southern California Pittsburgh
2002 William Green RB Boston College Cleveland
2001 Santana Moss WR Miami N.Y. Jets
2000 Julian Peterson OLB Michigan State San Francisco
1999 Jevon Kearse DE Florida Tennessee
1998 Kevin Dyson WR Utah Tennessee
1997 Reidel Anthony WR Florida Tampa Bay
1996 Duane Clemons DE California Minnesota
1995 Hugh Douglas DE Central State, Ohio N.Y. Jets
1994 Aaron Taylor T Notre Dame Green Bay
1993 Sean Dawkins WR California Indianapolis
1992 Chester McGlockton DT Clemson L.A. Raiders
1991 Dan McGwire QB San DiegoState Seattle
1990 James Williams CB Fresno State Buffalo
1989 Hart Lee Dykes WR Oklahoma State New England
1988 Eric Kumerow OLB Ohio State Miami
1987 John Bosa DE Boston College Miami
1986 Ronnie Harmon RB Iowa Buffalo
1985 Jerry Rice WR Mississippi Valley San Francisco
1984 Pete Koch DE Maryland Cincinnati
1983 Mike Pitts DE Alabama Atlanta
1982 Luis Sharpe T UCLA St. Louis
1981 Mark Nichols WR San Jose State Detroit
1980 Jim Ritcher C North Carolina State Buffalo

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Here is a list of the 16th Picks in the draft. Not a lot of stars from that slot. Some HOF guys but not many.

2015 Kevin Johnson CB Wake Forest Houston Texans
2014 Zach Martin OG Notre Dame Dallas Cowboys
2013 EJ Manuel QB Florida State Buffalo Bills
2012 Quinton Coples DE North Carolina NY Jets
2011 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue Washington
2010 Derrick Morgan DE/OLB Georgia Tech Tennessee
2009 Larry English DE/OLB N. Illinois San Diego
2008 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. State Arizona
2007 Justin Harrell DT Tennessee Green Bay
2006 Jason Allen CB Tennessee Miami
2005 Travis Johnson DT Florida State Houston
2004 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas Philadelphia
2003 Troy Polamalu SS Southern California Pittsburgh
2002 William Green RB Boston College Cleveland
2001 Santana Moss WR Miami N.Y. Jets
2000 Julian Peterson OLB Michigan State San Francisco
1999 Jevon Kearse DE Florida Tennessee
1998 Kevin Dyson WR Utah Tennessee
1997 Reidel Anthony WR Florida Tampa Bay
1996 Duane Clemons DE California Minnesota
1995 Hugh Douglas DE Central State, Ohio N.Y. Jets
1994 Aaron Taylor T Notre Dame Green Bay
1993 Sean Dawkins WR California Indianapolis
1992 Chester McGlockton DT Clemson L.A. Raiders
1991 Dan McGwire QB San DiegoState Seattle
1990 James Williams CB Fresno State Buffalo
1989 Hart Lee Dykes WR Oklahoma State New England
1988 Eric Kumerow OLB Ohio State Miami
1987 John Bosa DE Boston College Miami
1986 Ronnie Harmon RB Iowa Buffalo
1985 Jerry Rice WR Mississippi Valley San Francisco
1984 Pete Koch DE Maryland Cincinnati
1983 Mike Pitts DE Alabama Atlanta
1982 Luis Sharpe T UCLA St. Louis
1981 Mark Nichols WR San Jose State Detroit
1980 Jim Ritcher C North Carolina State Buffalo

To be fair.....you could probably do that with ANY draft slot.

That jerry rice guy was pretty good.

 

[mhughes0021]

To be fair.....you could probably do that with ANY draft slot.

That jerry rice guy was pretty good.

Ya lol...that list looks just as bad if youre looking at the #1 slot.

 

[cheeno]

I'm a little late this year on calling it but here is our pick at 16 barring a value slide.

http://youtu.be/8kg-qHjucj4

 

[mhughes0021]

I'm a little late this year on calling it but here is our pick at 16 barring a value slide.

http://youtu.be/8kg-qHjucj4

Dude is a freak....you don't see many 325 lb dudes that still look athletic. Only reason I would question a DT in rd 1 is there will be rd 1 quality guys still there in Rd 2 with how deep of a dline draft this is.

 

[cheeno]

Dude is a freak....you don't see many 325 lb dudes that still look athletic. Only reason I would question a DT in rd 1 is there will be rd 1 quality guys still there in Rd 2 with how deep of a dline draft this is.

I like him but I'm the same way. I'd rather wait until round two to grab a DT. Deepest position in the draft. The Lions have had scouts on this guy since the senior bowl and have met with him formally twice. He is high high up on their radar. Won't get past the Skins at 21 who are letting Potroast walk.

 

[tonyballs]

I'm a little late this year on calling it but here is our pick at 16 barring a value slide.

http://youtu.be/8kg-qHjucj4

That's your guy?

 

[jdeb]

Taylor Decker.

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[cheeno]

That's your guy?

Lions guy from what I've been reading. Here is a recent article, but I've been reading about him being pursued by Lions scouts since the Senior Bowl.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2016/02/detroit_lions_vernon_butler.html

 

[tonyballs]

Lions guy from what I've been reading. Here is a recent article, but I've been reading about him being pursued by Lions scouts since the Senior Bowl.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2016/02/detroit_lions_vernon_butler.html

Ahhhhhh..ok. I literally just watched about 2:30 of that video and came away unimpressed. He looked slow with no push and was weak. I need to watch the whole video but man, that was harsh lol

 

[tonyballs]

And for the record, Daniel Jeremiah (NFLN) doesn't even have this kid in the first 32. (mock draft)

 

[mhughes0021]

Ahhhhhh..ok. I literally just watched about 2:30 of that video and came away unimpressed. He looked slow with no push and was weak. I need to watch the whole video but man, that was harsh lol

This is more of a "highlight" video on him. Hes definitely a late small school riser getting a late push from the so-called experts. There will definitely be the "you only played 1 decent school and you didn't fair very well talk. But as far as measurable go...you get a kid like that in the combine and hes 6'3'' 325 lbs and has feet...teams start to drool over potential. Im not high on a DT in the 1st rd this year....need a high impact guy at WR or DE imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgOxjWwxtVo

 

[jdeb]

Ahhhhhh..ok. I literally just watched about 2:30 of that video and came away unimpressed. He looked slow with no push and was weak. I need to watch the whole video but man, that was harsh lol

Perfect Lion....

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[cheeno]

And for the record, Daniel Jeremiah (NFLN) doesn't even have this kid in the first 32. (mock draft)

This is more of a "highlight" video on him. Hes definitely a late small school riser getting a late push from the so-called experts. There will definitely be the "you only played 1 decent school and you didn't fair very well talk. But as far as measurable go...you get a kid like that in the combine and hes 6'3'' 325 lbs and has feet...teams start to drool over potential. Im not high on a DT in the 1st rd this year....need a high impact guy at WR or DE imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgOxjWwxtVo

Tony I have to disagree with your film evaluation, the guy was a disrupter in the middle of that line all game. You are not going to post a lot of highlight real plays from the nose but he was consistently collapsing the pocket and getting pressure. As for him flying under the radar...Both right on the money. He's risen into the top 20 on many boards only recently and is being compared by many to Mo Wilkerson. With the late rise, you have to at least consider the Lions were maybe originally scouting him as a day two pick rather than a day one. I still think he is in play for the Lions in the first round. Now Jeremiah has us taking MegaQuon and like I said on my original post if value falls you have to grab it. If we can go from CJ to Treadwell that certainly cushions the blow.