2020 Dem candidate

[tigermud]

Bernie says white people don't know what it's like to be poor. Bernie of full a shit.

 

[Michchamp]

Bernie says white people don't know what it's like to be poor. Bernie of full a shit.

sure doesn't sound like something he'd say.

 

[tigermud]

sure doesn't sound like something he'd say.

Oh he sure did

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

 

[tinselwolverine]

Oh he sure did

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

Well yeah, but poor white people are much more likely to have white relatives or friends with money to fall back on than poor black people do, because as the statistics in the article you link to point out, there are just a lot more white people than there are black people, so it makes it more likely that poor white people will just have more opportunities to fall back on relatives and friends with money, just because there are so many more of them for white people than there are for black people.

It?s just a matter of simple and mathematics and statistics, extrapolated across a population.

That?s what Bernie Sanders meant when he said that.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Well yeah, but poor white people are much more likely to have white relatives or friends with money to fall back on than poor black people do, because as the statistics in the article you link to point out, there are just a lot more white people than there are black people, so it makes it more likely that poor white people will just have more opportunities to fall back on relatives and friends with money, just because there are so many more of them for white people than there are for black people.

It?s just a matter of simple and mathematics and statistics, extrapolated across a population.

That?s what Bernie Sanders meant when he said that.

 

[byco42]

See human beings are still somewhat tribal, and like people that associate with their tribe. so someone looking to have a positive experience with that tribe might go along with some harmless show of practicing one of their customs while visiting

like Trump putting on Winston Churchill's hat in Merry Old England yesterday, and looking even dopier than Winston Churchill when he did.

Wearing a sports ball cap while delivering a serious campaign address seems rather distracting to me, and I wonder, were I to wear a Michigan cap and say the things I'd say that the University would not be a little distracted, too.

And anything that hides president Trump's hair is an improvement.

 

[Michchamp]

Oh he sure did

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-sanders-wrong-say-when-youre-white-you-dont/

So I read the link. The full context here is important, and it's clear (to me) he was comparing the poor white experience with that combined with racism that poor blacks face, after being asked a question about it in Flint, Michigan. From your link:

When it was Sanders? turn to answer, he began by talking about several specific examples of racial discrimination. He then drew a contrast with what whites experience.
"When you?re white, you don?t know what it?s like to be living in a ghetto. You don?t know what it?s like to be poor. You don?t know what it?s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car," Sanders said.

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Someone is full of shit here, but it's not Bernie.

 

[Spartanmack]

So I read the link. The full context here is important, and it's clear (to me) he was comparing the poor white experience with that combined with racism that poor blacks face, after being asked a question about it in Flint, Michigan. From your link:

When it was Sanders? turn to answer, he began by talking about several specific examples of racial discrimination. He then drew a contrast with what whites experience.
"When you?re white, you don?t know what it?s like to be living in a ghetto. You don?t know what it?s like to be poor. You don?t know what it?s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car," Sanders said.

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Someone is full of shit here, but it's not Bernie.

no, its Bernie. the context changes nothing, he's full of shit. He was just playing to his audience.

 

[Michchamp]

no, its Bernie. the context changes nothing, he's full of shit. He was just playing to his audience.

You're wrong. The context does matter, and he's not pandering; his positions on race, and poverty, (and pretty much all other political matters) have been consistent for decades.

 

[Spartanmack]

You're wrong. The context does matter, and he's not pandering; his positions on race, and poverty, (and pretty much all other political matters) have been consistent for decades.

I'm not wrong and consistency has nothing to do with pandering. Hes a rich white guy who got rich without ever having a real job and never accomplishing anything in his decades working in government. he is rich because people are dumb enough to buy his book - and because his wife collected a fat paycheck for bankrupting a university with his help. you just like him because you believe his lies about America so you defend his lies by saying meaningless context was left out.

 

[tigermud]

So I read the link. The full context here is important, and it's clear (to me) he was comparing the poor white experience with that combined with racism that poor blacks face, after being asked a question about it in Flint, Michigan. From your link:

When it was Sanders? turn to answer, he began by talking about several specific examples of racial discrimination. He then drew a contrast with what whites experience.
"When you?re white, you don?t know what it?s like to be living in a ghetto. You don?t know what it?s like to be poor. You don?t know what it?s like to be hassled when you walk down the street or you get dragged out of a car," Sanders said.

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Someone is full of shit here, but it's not Bernie.

I wish the dems would stop playing identity politics and constantly trying to start race wars next time you see Bernie tell him it?s ok to be white

 

[jwlcosu]

Old man Biden is a disaster. I wrote earlier in this thread that he'll implode. It's happening. He's a beaut. Sharing bracelets with Barack on best friends day, like a third grader, and taking abortion marching orders from Alyssa Milano. No spine, no backbone, Biden is a plagiarizing, career politician who will be gone by the time JH goes 0-5 in The Game.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/06/the-pathetic-biden-2.php

 

[Thumb]

No spine, no backbone

A good thing you posted both of those redundant insults, or normal people might not have been able to understand your moronic post wrapped up as an (pathetic) excuse to insult Michigan Basketball.

It's nice to have you *Ohio folks around to keep the bar low so the Spartys and Muds of the board can feel like they participate as well.

 

[byco42]

For 40 years, Joe supports the Hyde Amendment. Takes him 24 hours to reverse his position 180 degrees. Convinces me that he never really stood for it at all, and this is not surprising.

 

[tinselwolverine]

A good thing you posted both of those redundant insults, or normal people might not have been able to understand your moronic post wrapped up as an (pathetic) excuse to insult Michigan Basketball.

It's nice to have you *Ohio folks around to keep the bar low so the Spartys and Muds of the board can feel like they participate as well.

This is funny. I see what you did there.

 

[Michchamp]

For 40 years, Joe supports the Hyde Amendment. Takes him 24 hours to reverse his position 180 degrees. Convinces me that he never really stood for it at all, and this is not surprising.

I think he's first and foremost one of the most shameless opportunists among the Democratic candidates; he chases the money, which ends up making him more or less a solid Republican in his politics, not even a moderate one.

See, e.g. his bankruptcy bill, opposition to school busing, support for the '94 crime bill, War On Terror, etc.

Bernie's successfully pushing the party left; for many though - like Biden - this push may be rhetorical only.

Right-wing/corporate Dems tried to tar Bernie over the Hyde amendment, but he voted against it; that kinda blew up in their faces.

 

[byco42]

Biden's soul is in peril over this.

 

[Michchamp]

Biden's soul is in peril over this.

He doesn't seem too concerned.

 

[byco42]

He doesn't seem too concerned.

All the more reason to point it out.

 

[Polish-Hammer]

LMAO, let Biden run.

4 more years of Trump.